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The execution of Andrei Romanovich Chikatilo was carried out in "Pistol Target Room No 3", in the Rostov-on-Don Central Prison.

Contrary to the generally held belief, the condemned prisoner does not have to kneel, and then be shot, but is strapped into a heavy wooden chair, which is bolted to the concrete floor of the room. The chair rather resembles the U.S. electric chair in appearance.

The chair is situated in front of a three meter high sand bag wall, and surrounded by a zinc cachment area, which contains a drainage channel for blood. The executioner is a member of the prison staff, and will be one of many who volunteer to be state registered executioners.

He will not have been seen by the condemned, and will be waiting at the rear of the chamber behind a screen. After the warrant of death has been read by the Principal or Deputy Principal of the prison the executioner rapidly walks behind the seated prisoner. He wears felt slippers, and his approach is hardly audible.

The weapon of execution is usually a Makarov 9 mm service pistol, which is swiftly placed behind the right ear and fired. It is known in prison parlance as the "nine grams treatment", which is the bullets weight.One round is usually fatal, and cosiderable brain tissue is carried out of the head as the bullet exits on its way into the sand bag wall.

Andrei Romanov Chikatilo died mouthing curses and obscenities at his executioners. An unamed Japanese scientific group had offered to buy Chikatilos brain. It is doubtful that the Soviet authorities would have allowed this to happen, and in any event, the brain would have suffered massive tissue damage from the 9mm bullet.


There is a further gruesome procedure which is carried out in the prison mortuary, but I think that the execution details will suffice.


                     Jim Prideaux
                   (Bwwinston@aol.com)

194.108.138.253 wrote:

Chikatolo defended himself by pointing to his childhood's experience of the notorious famine which took place in Ukraine in the 1930's. This was said to have disturbed his mind as there were widespread acts of cannibalism in the affected areas. — Chikatilo was born in 1936, whereas the great famine was in 1932-1933. Perhaps it was the wartime experiences in 1940s? — Monedula 12:58, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

That's still there, in the form of "and Stalin's plans of agricultural collectivisation would cause a devastating famine." Which is especially incorrect, as that famine was 1932-33 as mentioned. g026r 21:27, 2 May 2006 (UTC)


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[edit] Jokes about Chikatilo

In October, 2002, Moscow English-language newspaper Exile published a fake news article saying that Moscow Mayor proposed to build in Moscow a statue of Chikatilo (whom the article incorrectly calls Anatoly).

I heard that it was a joke on Mayor Luzhkov's proposal to re-estblish the monument to Felix Dzerzhinsky, which was removed in 1991. This proposal was never implemented.

http://www.exile.ru/2002-October-17/chikatilo_statue_causes_stir.html

[edit] Chimera?

Was Chikatilo a Chimera? The text about the semen sample and blood test not matching seems to indicate that.

Negative. He simply did not secrete blood into his semen, even in trace amounts, as most of us do.

[edit] Photos

For an article about a serial killer in the Soviet Union, one would have thought there would be many more photographs. As most would be public domain no? Heres a couple of links I've found:

One of the first ones would be good I think...

- FrancisTyers 14:23, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

Article needs link to "list of serial killers - Ukraine" Jbhood 11:36, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Alexander Pichushkin

This guy, Alexander Pichushkin, could possibly be the successor of Chikatilo. The press are calling him the "Crazy Chess Player" because he confessed planning 64 murders - one for each square of the board, and was 4 murders short of his goal when captured. Till now 14 bodies were found, all in the Bitsa Park in the suburbs of Moscow. Since I'm not too good at Russian and I am not familiar with Russian news agencies etc., I thought I would invite anyone here to have a go at an article since you should all be more well-versed about this than me! Here are the few links I have from MosNews (English): [1] [2]

└ VodkaJazz / talk ┐ 11:08, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

If you have an active link, I can take a go. I am rusty but should be able to handle most of it.~~johnway2001@aol.com 12:08PM pst, 27-jul-07

Try this one: [3] Palefire 15:03, 2 August 2007 (UTC)


[edit] His canabilism?

When I read about this guy in a British newspaper years ago, it claimed his teeth all fell out due to him eating his victims (gnawing on bones you see) and his teeth were replaced with steel ones. There was a picture of him with the steel teeth. I think the information about his canabilism should be put into the article. Snowbound 06:02, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

It would only be put in the article if you found some source to substantiate it. CynicalMe 09:05, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3254074.stm I assume the BBC would be a credible source? If not, I know a few Russians who were there at the time and counld recount the released information which did include acts of cannibalism. ~~Johnway@aol.com 12:00pm PST, 27 Jul 2007

[edit] Observation

Have you seen that Andrei Chikatilo was found guilty a day before his birthday ?(see October 15 1992)

[edit] Technically?

"though an innocent person had been executed for his crimes, so his death toll would technically be 53)." Technically how? Would Russian law allow him to be held criminally responsible for that execution? If this just means morally responsible, I would like to delete this passage. 24.131.12.228 05:44, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Maybe you could say he "indirectly caused" an additional death, or else delete it like you say. Jbhood 09:15, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

All right, I went ahead and took out that passage. 24.131.12.228 17:50, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] number of victims?

The main article states 53, this article states 56 and this one states 52. Which is correct? Lugnuts 16:47, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Confessed to 56, tried for 53, convicted of 52. ~~johnway2001@aol.com 12:02pm PST, 27 Jul 2007

[edit] Movie Citizen X

The movie Citizen X doesn't portray the Russian police as 'arrogant and incompetent'. More like fatalistic and demoralised. One of the central themes of the movie is how the Communist ideology inhibited the proper execution of the investigation because the local Party apparatchik insisted that they don't have serial killers in the USSR. Whether or not that actually happened, I don't know. There is one arrogant and incompetent policeman in the movie, but he's not a major character. The heroes (Stephen Rea and Donald Sutherland) are dedicated and highly competent. Lexo 23:01, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] question about the popular culture section

In the pop culture section it states that he was an inspiration for Hannibal Lecter. This is highly unlikey for several reasons. The first being that it was stated in the documentary for "Hannibal Rising" that Thomas Harris got his inspiration from being a crime scene reporter in the 60's. Secondly Hannibal was introduced in 1981 in the book "Red Dragon" and Chikatilo was barely a blip on the Russian radar screen let alone a figure worldwide. His statements about being a cannibal would not likely have been in the mass media until at least his trial in early 1992. Also Harris has alluded on several occasions to several serial killers being inspiration and Chikatilo has not been one of them. For these reasons I believe that statement should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.50.55.16 (talk) 03:03, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Returning POWs

His father, who was captured and imprisoned by the Nazis during the war, returned home a social pariah; in Stalinist Russia, surviving prisoners of war were viewed as cowards.

This statement does not seem to reflect Stalinist policies. Prisoners returning from foreign captivity were viewed with political suspicion, not as cowards. Deserters from the Red Army (who are more likely to have been regarded as cowards) were treated far more leniently than returning POWs, regarded as traitors.

Jonathan Headland 15:42, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Number of victims

I once read a book written by the police officer who got Chikatilo apprehended and tried for the killings where C stated he had killed 53, possibly more. However, only 51 of those murders could be proven. Does this ring a bell to any of you? I'll see if I can find the book in the library. OktoberStorm 09:41, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Ukraine as an independent state did not exist when Chikatilo was born, therefore I changed it to reflect that he was born in the Ukrainian SSR. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.15.6.114 (talk) 22:55, 9 January 2008 (UTC)