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[edit] Eh?

" During a concert in Gothenburg, Sweden on July 30, 2005, Till Lindemann suffered a knee injury when Flake accidentally ran into him with the Segway. This caused concerts scheduled in Asia to be canceled" Is this really necessary?--Schwarzes Nacht 13:28, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rammstein is not anti-American.

I'm tired of people treating people of German decent as evil. Just cause Hitler was one of the ex-leaders of Germany.

The Germans are the most industrial people on the planet. The have the best road, the best vehicles, the best technology, and the best music. Associating such a great country of great industry and culture with hate and intolerance is wrong.

Amerika is a reminder that our country, the United States, has been very invasive. Our government might not be the invaders, but the corporations are. The people who have accused Rammstein of being anti-American are the representatives of the industry that is suppost to be supporting their record. RIAA! Just cause Till Lindemann isn't dressed in an Old Navy T-shirt and eating McDonnald's for breakfast doesn't mean he is anti-American.

One thing I liked about the Amerika video was that they didn't attack any political party which has been one of the many problems with most musicians, which according to their label, they must express liberal support against conservatism. This is brainwashing if anything.

The members of Rammstein know that while they are against the war, the real warmongers are not the American Government, as implied in Green Day's American Idiot, but the American Corporations, which have invaded other cultures with consumerism.

As a result, the industry has fought back. Rammstein's Reise, Reise and Amerika albums have been hard to find at any American music retailer. Anytime anyone request to hear the new Rammstein album in the United States, the station plays Du Hast as if thats to only song they've ever heard.

The silence must stop!

As it turns out, no foreign government has recently made a decision to invade a certain oil-rich country in the middle east despite protests from various parts of the world, using justifications later shown to be empty. Lasst euch ein wenig kontrollieren... Und wer nicht tanzen will am Schluss, weiß noch nicht dass er tanzen muss. Pff. Shawnc 08:53, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
The same world that protested action against Hitler in the 30s? (PS the al-Qaeda connection has come out as true.) GreatGatsby 03:42, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
Looking at your contributions, Hitler figures prominently in your defence of the Bush administration (e.g Talk:Abu Musab al-Zarqawi/Archive2). I take it you're familiar with Godwin's Law? About Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda:
The consensus of intelligence experts has been that these contacts never led to an operational relationship.
Stop spreading lies on Wikipedia. --Imroy 23:33, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm very happy to see we all have stupid agendas to push, but let's not kid around here, GreatGatsby: no, it hasn't, and it appears unlikely to at all since it hasn't already so far. 24.235.231.138 (talk) 21:23, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi, because of the meaning of the song I can give you a little information. I am living in Germany and looked a MTV documentary about Rammstein a few months ago. There they said why they made this song. They said that they had a tour in the US with an other band. I have no idea which one, maybe Godsmack?? The point is that this band supports the Iraq war of the US government. They shouted slogans like "Kill 'em all!" and the audience was yelling. The Rammstein members had a really bad feeling regarding this because of they remembered the German nazi party at the "Sportpalastrede": "Wollt ihr den totalen Krieg!?". As a (late) statement, that they don't support the US-raid (like the other band) they made this song.--84.137.230.226 11:49, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
If that's true, that's extremely interesting. Genuinely so. Can you find an interview to support that? 24.235.231.138 (talk) 21:23, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hi, I'm American

I also happen to be of German descent (and about 16 other ancestries, at least five of them American Indian), and while I say I disagree with the message of the song (saying that Americans are forcing everything on people, I.E. Globalizing products from their country, and starting a war that was un-called for), I say they have the right to say it. Not all Americans are overweight, eat at McDonald's and support George Bush, those are just steretypes (now, I am overweight, but I'm trying to change that, damn it, besides, I hate fast food). I think the song is attacking Americans as a whole, instead of just those corporations and politicians, that's what I find offensive. Besides, Rammstein said they had "never made a political song" in their career. I'm sure this song says otherwise. I don't think that Rammstein hates America, I think they hate what people think of America (meaning, because that's what they hear about America, that's what they think, it's been a very long time since they toured here, you know). You gotta remember, Germany has it's fair share of globolization (I.E. The automobile industry). So, they're just telling us what they have wrong with our country, not what they have wrong with us. We don't own everything. Not everyone agrees with the globalization this country has. Hell, I'm glad Germans can get American products, try going to get something that's not food from a store in America, and have it not be foreign. I even have an American flag that's made in China. America's a land of immigrants anyways, so I don't understand why they'd have us distributing to people that are foreign to us. Hell, the last person in my family to speak Spanish (that was born in America, I have cousins born to my American born great aunt, and those cousins were born in Mexico)was my, guess what, mother! Who is only 1/8 Spanish. (Many of my Spanish speaking relatives in Mexico, also speak German), and on my dad's side of the family EVERYONE is bilingual in either English and German, English and Creek, or English and Swedish. Sorry to get off of topic. Good song, good CD. We should get a bit more information on it. Alright, I'm done now. Peace. Iamanadam 19:20, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

. . . okay? 24.235.231.138 (talk) 21:24, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trash

Really, anti-american Euro garbage. It just shows the idiocy and the distastful ignorance of Europeans, and the rest of the world as a whole. Travis Cleveland (talk) 03:48, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

This is not a discussion forum. Doshindude (talk) 19:18, 26 February 2008 (UTC)