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Contents 1 King/Prince 2 Theatre 3 error in timeline 4 tone of the article, and answers to alg./morocco question 5 this article is outdated 6 This map its wrong! 7 Books

[edit] King/Prince

A reference is made to the 4 Princes of Christian Spain: it is my belief they were Kings, as referenced to in the account of the Battle of Las Navas de Tolosa so should this be changed?Norgy (talk) 22:11, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Theatre

i did say it is a theatre. the almohad and the almoravid were in the current Morocco not algerie. but Mustafaa is again an alegrian . and the is just the reason.Aziri 14:15, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

What fantasies are you talking about now, Aziri? I didn't write this article, and it doesn't claim they were Algerian anyway. - Mustafaa 17:09, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

see the history of algeria , and see the history of Morocco.Aziri 12:15, 16 Jul 2004 (UTC)

[edit] error in timeline

It seems to me that suggesting that "all the moorish lands" in Spain were lost in a few years after the Battle of Las Navas de Tolosa in 1212 is telescoping things a bit. It was certainly an inflection point in Iberian history, but the reconquista took another two and a half centuries to end the Moorish domains.

[edit] tone of the article, and answers to alg./morocco question

I think the tone of the article is a bit...subjective? judgemental? certainly not very NPOV; three repetitions of "fanatical" with reference to the almohads, (not even credited to some observor who considers them fanatical). My understanding of the Almohad movement is that one might call Ibn Tumart a fanatic, but the Almohads themselves were pretty standard medieval Muslim dynasts.

And RE: the Morocco/Algeria question above; the distinction obviously didn't exist back then; for what it's worth, the movement's founder, Ibn Tumart, was a Masmuda berber from the mountains in the south of present day Morocco, but the dynasty's founder, Abd Al-mu'min, was a Berber from Tlemcen, in present day Algeria; he conquered the territories of what is now both of those countries.jackbrown 00:24, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

And yes: re: error in timeline, the the late 1200s, most of the Muslim territories in Andalusia were lost, but Granada held on for another couple of hundred years (till 1492, when columbus sailed the ocean blue, as a point of fact)

[edit] this article is outdated

This article mostly uses secondary sources of more than a cntury old (see references). It is completely outdated. Wikipedia runs the risk of recycling the colonial views which the Encyclopedia Britannica held before the first or second world war. Brittanica did away with them but the ideas reappear in this form on the internet.S710 10:55, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] This map its wrong!

The map is allegedly wrong, according to the info on Image:Almohad dynasty 1147 - 1269 (AD).PNG and I have removed it for now. Could someone look into it? What sources is it based on? There is no mention of them. / Fred-J 09:10, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Books

The extensive burning of books by the Almohads should be mentioned. Badagnani 03:10, 23 August 2007 (UTC)