Talk:Alfred E. Neuman

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1 MOXIE
2 Various
3 Nazi's used him as propoganda?
4 Origins of
5 suggested nazi depiction
6 Fair use rationale for Image:Neumanbw.gif
7 Live character in mask.
8 Fair use rationale for Image:Mad30.JPG
9 Postcard
10 Appearance in Peanuts

[edit] MOXIE

And where can we see pictures of her? Has she got any catchphrase?Herle King 18:41, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Various

What does the E. in Alfred E. Neuman stand for? (Question by 66.167.42.196)

Whatever. I was fascinated by this piece of information:

Neuman's name was used on a radio show by Henry Morgan.

Sir Henry Morgan (c. 1635 - August 25, 1688) was a privateer and radio host of Welsh birth, who made a name in the Caribbean as a leader of buccaneers and roughnecks.

Sorry, but Alfred E. Neuman inspires nonsense like that. <KF> 12:25, Nov 8, 2004 (UTC)

What? no picture?

There was a song by Alfred E. Neuman entitled (what else?) "What, Me Worry?" I only have a poor quality recording, but the vocalist sounds suspiciously like Mel Blanc. Confirm/deny? Lee M 02:31, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

MAD also released a "record" with the magazine called "It's a Gas" with "vocals by Alfred E. Neuman." The vocals consisted entirely of the song's title (once) and belching (many times). Carlo 00:14, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

How about the "Worry" magazine cover where W.'s face is slightly altered? Should there be a mention of that, even though it wasn't MAD?--Joel 01:19, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

If that one is mentioned, it should be in context -- there've been a lot of political references to AEN, including to Jimmy Carter. And there will certainly be more. The idea isn't entirely unreasonable, but where would we stop? McGehee 21:02, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Does Alfred E. Neuman manifest physical characteristics typical of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome? Will someone familiar with this condition please add the appropriate material to this article. Josh-Levin@ieee.org 01:40, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I read somewhere that alfred E newman is a ripoff of the yellow kid

[edit] Nazi's used him as propoganda?

If he first appeared in 1954 how was he used as anti-Jewish Nazi propaganda? Am I missing something? --Allthewhile 04:21, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

The image first appeared in MAD in 1954. Variants of it had already existed for many years previously. --Clement Cherlin 02:36, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Most precisely, in 1954 was his official MAD debut but, nameless, he had existed before that in Europe, 19th century according to this article.Herle King 18:39, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Origins of

I came across this page on the web dating from the 40s. Looks a lot like Alfred E. Neuman. http://scriptorium.lib.duke.edu/americavotes/taft.html -- harburg 02:28, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

It looks like Alfred E. Neuman. crossed with a monkey--220.238.238.21 10:26, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

One thing that I've never seen touched on anywhere is that the origins actually reflect anti-Irish stereotypes of the late 19th century. At that time the Irish were typically drawn with simian characteristics in editorial cartoons... cast iron toy banks, comics - everywhere the Irish were made to look like chimps. The Yellow Kid grew out of this same era and shows some of the same effects, though toned-down. The yellow kid's "real name" was in fact Mickey Dugan. Alfred E. Newman is a direct descendant of these Irish-as-chimp depictions, and its almost certain that the pre-Mad versions were intended to depict an Irish person. Jafafa Hots 22:24, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Where did you get "Mickey Dugan" from? Although the comic took place in Hogan's Alley, I've never heard a name for him. Actually, the earliest "Alfred" I've seen was late 19th century, and I think it was an ad for a dentist. Nothing particularly Irish about it. Carlo 00:14, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Here's one link to the "Mickey Dugan" info: http://cartoons.osu.edu/yellowkid/index.htm. As far as him looking Irish, today we would not see anything like that in the image, but in the latter half of the 19th century in the U.S., anti-Irish sentiment was very strong, and similar images meaning to represent the Irish were widespread in editorial cartoons, cast-iron toy banks, etc. They were meant to suggest that the Irish were low-bred and even simian. While we wouldn't see that in the image of Alfred, a person at that time, being exposed to images of that style and with that intent everywhere would likely instantaneously make that connection.

[edit] suggested nazi depiction

Tod den Juden cannot mean Death of the Jews (that would be Tod der Juden). Also, I think AEN as antisemitic poster boy is somewhat not probable. The features of the "typical" Jew in anti-semitic material have other traits. Maybe the extreme ears though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 145.253.2.237 (talk) 08:10, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Neumanbw.gif

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BetacommandBot 07:23, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Live character in mask.

"A live-action version of Alfred E. Neuman -- an uncredited actor wearing a mask -- appears briefly in the 1980 film Up the Academy which was originally released to theaters as Mad Magazine Presents Up the Academy. Mad later pulled its support from the film and all footage of the Neuman character was excised from North American home video and television releases, alhough it was reinstated for the 2006 DVD release."

Wasn't there also a live action person wearing a mask on the first episode or two or Mad TV before &/or after commercials? 67.5.157.33 20:07, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Mad30.JPG

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BetacommandBot (talk) 14:36, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Postcard

No. That postcard dates from the 1920s or earlier. It is not the postcard Kurtzman saw on the bulletin board. The Neuman image from the bulletin board was printed in the April 1956 issue of Mad and was a b/w image of Alfred looking very much like the Mingo painting. Pepso2 (talk) 17:05, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Appearance in Peanuts

The article states that Neuman appeared as a hullucination by Charlie Brown in a Peanuts strip and TV special. Is this true? — Loadmaster (talk) 02:35, 3 March 2008 (UTC)