Talk:Alexius V Ducas

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Miskin, why does this need cleanup? Adam Bishop 17:32, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Maybe not a cleanup since there's nothing wrong with the content, but a good copyedit and structuring. I currently has no sections and gives the impression of a stub. Miskin 10:01, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Name change

Well, now this has been moved back to a Latinized spelling, so it no longer matches all the other emperors. Now what? Adam Bishop (talk) 08:37, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

There are some Byzantine figures already using a Latin spelling: there is work to be done in making them consistent. Deipnosophista (talk) 22:10, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

They all used a Latin spelling until last year when they were all moved to a Greek spelling; there is a lengthy discussion somewhere. Now what, are we going to move them all back to the Latin version again? Adam Bishop (talk) 05:50, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

I agree that consistency is necessary here. Many of our sources are Latin and we cannot have a mixture: and no-one is arguing for "Konstantinopolis" or "Karthagon" or "Sikileia". The convention in historical writing in English is pretty clear: look at Gibbon, Bury, Hussey and (I haven't got a copy but I recall) Rostovtseff (Finlay does take the other line, but always looks strange and a bit pretentious). I would rather go to the trouble of changing them back. Can you point me in the direction of the discussion you refer to, which I haven't seen? Deipnosophista (talk) 07:04, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

I think it may have taken place on numerous pages, but there is a big discussion at Talk:List of Byzantine Emperors/naming (and it was two years ago already!). Adam Bishop (talk) 07:18, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

The new article title fails to consider that the family name is covered in Doukas. Could you point me to the discussion on the renaming? The "Greek" spelling is actually the one used by the Oxford Dictionary of Byzantium and reflects more recent trends in English-language historiography.

On the matter of consistency, User:Srnec has started a more recent conversation on renaming articles on Byzantine Emperors for consistency reasons in Talk:List of Byzantine Emperors. I seem to be the only one bothering to answer so far. Your views on the subject would probably be better placed there than any talk page about an individual Emperor or Emperess. Dimadick (talk) 08:32, 16 March 2008 (UTC)