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[edit] Suggested merge with Commercial aircraft

The contents in the commercial aircraft article is essentially referring to the same type of aircraft variant, but some information there is salvageable to rule out a complete redirect. A suggested merge is the most reasonable thing to do. ╫ ２５ ^{◀RingADing▶} 19:38, 29 July 2006 (UTC) ╫

[edit] history of airliners

There is no mention of the development of airliners here and it seems to concentrate entirely on modern jet types.GraemeLeggett 15:05, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lack of diversity

The article should explain why modern airliners are so uniform. Today tail-engined planes (like DC-9 or Tu-154) become ever more rare. Almost all new designs are twin-engined, low-wing, engines in underwing pods, at least both Airbus and Boeing do this. We have a boring degree of uniformity!

The lack of aerospace diversity is suprising, for example the modern automobile industry has so much variation in car body form, position of engine, drive types, etc.

It looks like airliner-making is in stagnation, we have engineering advances (new material types used mainly), but we have zero scientific advances (new shapes and new propulsion types).

Reasons for this unfortunate situation should be explained in the article. 91.83.12.110 (talk) 23:05, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Uh, if someone can find a published, reliable source about this - which I sincerly doubt - then it can be added. But until then, all of this is OR, conjecture, speculation, and even a bit silly. First, where are the engines of the CRJ and and ERJ families? The nose?? These are jet airliners. Second, remember the Boeing Sonic Cruiser? Nobody wanted to by it, but it was a serious proposal by Boeing. Boeing is also playing around with the BWB design. So there is diversity out there. Finally, the reason the twin engine, pod-under-wing design is common is that it's a proven design for over-100-set designs. Both EMB and Bombardier are using it for there larger designs, the E-Jets and CSeries, while the smaller MRJ and ARJ are both using tail-mounted engines. As far as propulsion goes, prop-fan designs are being considered again, as are geared turbofans. Turbofans are still getting bigger and bigger, and the standard sizes are becoming even more efficent. As far as your comparison to automobiles, most still use 4 wheels, one at each corner. Most engines are front-mounted. Three-wheel designs aren't very common any more, and I have yet to see a 5-wheel design. There have been a few rear-engine designs, and even fewer mid-mounted. But where are the side- or top-mounted engines?? We need more diversity in automobile design! Let's hear it for a 5-wheel car with top-mounted engine! - BillCJ (talk) 17:18, 21 January 2008 (UTC)