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Contents 1 South Korean Romanization 2 Destinations 3 Booking&Fares 4 Booking site 5 airkoryo.co.uk 6 Only flights from Pyongyang? 7 KFA Travel 8 DPRK Interference 9 New Destinations

[edit] South Korean Romanization

The Revised Romanization System is a recent South Korean government creation with openly political overtones. I find it highly inappropriate to use it for anything North Korean. The North Koreans have their own system. Since this is not a South Korean airline and this is not a South Korean name – when would it ever be appropriate to use the South Korean system to Romanize the name of this airline? Listing this Romanized name under the South Korean system displays a very un-encyclopedic ignorance of the language and political environment. If English language contributors are going to maintain a neutral point of view, then they will have to discard their South Korean trappings – inclusive of the South Korean government’s Romanization system.

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[edit] Destinations

The official website now lists only Beijing as a scheduled destination.[1] Is this correct? If so, the article needs to be changed and the intro also needs to make it clearer that they don't fly often or to many places at all. --kingboyk 15:43, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

The so-called 'official' website is an arm of the Korean Friendship Association and only caters to Beijing tourists with their bookings. They don't take into account services into Russia or elsewhere. Any info from the KFA website is not necessarily correct. --Russavia 16:34, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

KFA website doesn't show all the routes. We fly Beijing and also Shenyang, Moscow and Vladivostock. airkoryo.co.uk makes it clear about the other routes. KFA website has nothing to do with the airline it is just a political fan site.--AirKoryo 16:37, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

They don´t fly to Moscow! This service was suspended! You prefer to say "we". If you are an Air Koryo employee you should know that, or? Dagadt

[edit] Booking&Fares

Can somebody tell me how to book a flight with Air Koryo??? Over an d above that I´d like to know how big the flight fares are. I heard Beijing-Pyongyang 334$. Is this right? Dagadt

It's sketchy, the fares range usually from 200€ to 400€ or there abouts. Just like most airlines the fares change on different dates

I read the answer above and the one on my talk. Many thanks for your reply! I don´t want to fly to Pyonyang now, but I´m interested in the fares because of I want to travel to North Korea one time in my live...Dagadt

[edit] Booking site

Why is this being removed? There isn't really any link at all between KFA and airkoryo.77.98.177.54 16:24, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] airkoryo.co.uk

77.98.177.54 has added two links into the article - one being for airkoryo.co.uk and the other being an email link. Refer this edit. The editor claims that this site is not associated with the Korean Friendship Association, however, I beg to differ. A whois search of the domain shows that it was registered on 28 July 2007, and is registered to a Daniel McDermott. The webmaster of the site is also a D. McDermott. And a Google search shows that Daniel McDermott is in fact the UK propaganda communication rep of the KFA. The editor also claims to be a travel agency in Britain, but isn't a travel agency supposed to have and show a licence? As such, they are a TICKETING AGENT only, they are NOT Air Koryo the airline themselves, and as such their link (particularly the email link) do not belong here. --Russavia 16:25, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Ok, DAN is the guy from KFA, as I have googled it. Air Koryo doesn't have a website other than that. Whats wrong with helping people book tickets. --AirKoryo 16:36, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Nothing is wrong with helping people to book tickets, but one things that Wikipedia is not is a telephone book or travel guide. If your commercial link is allowed to stay, then why wouldn't Koryo Group be allowed to have a link too? After all, they help people book tickets too. Also, another point, JS does not fly to Moscow. --Russavia 16:47, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Really? Perhaps we don't fly scheduled on a regular basis, however we retail tickets from Moscow to Pyongyang on an agreement with Aeroflot. --77.98.177.54 16:56, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Only flights from Pyongyang?

Does Air Koryo only fly from Pyongyang to several cities? Maybe they operate a few Domestic routes. If so, we should list them. Dagadt —The preceding signed but undated comment was added at 07:10, August 26, 2007 (UTC).

[edit] KFA Travel

I believe KFA Travel tourists uses Air Koryo planes, because the website is the same. Is that true? If somebody already flow with Air Koryo maybe he knows what Domestic flights, at least for tourists, they operate. We should expand the section about Domestic fligths. Dagadt 17:03, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

No I can answer my question :D. If you book a tour with the KFA you´ll fly with Air Koryo. Dagadt 18:00, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DPRK Interference

Judging by the glowing terms and poor English used at some points in the article, I believe that DPRK officials have been editing this page. Naturally, their view is a biased one. Any thoughts? 203.12.156.82 (talk) 03:06, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, and they've gone to Sunan International Airport‎ too... I've fixed it there, I'll try to fix this one tomorrow, there may be interesting material in what was posted. Mthibault (talk) 03:07, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Yep, my thoughts entirely. I'll be keeping my eye on the page from now on. Oh those naughty North Koreans and their terrible propaganda English. Plutonium27 (talk) 11:24, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

I've done my best, if someone can check if I removed all POV... Mthibault (talk) 15:22, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Destinations

If you look at the information box you´ll see that a new destinations is planned. can someone tell me which city they plan to serve and if it´s still unclear at least all cities which could be served in future.