Talk:Air France Flight 8969

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In the summary of this page, it is stated that there were "7 casualties, including the hijackers". The page also enumerates three civilian casualties; an Algerian Policeman, a Vietnamese diplomat, and an employee of the French embassy. Towards the end of this article is written: "After nearly forty hours of intense negotiations and the loss of three more lives", which would lead me to believe that at this point, no fewer than 6 civilians had been killed. Either the count is incorrect or "and the loss of three more lives" should be changed. Ph0t0phobic 19:53, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Where do the GIGN trained on a airbus aircraft before the assault? "There is no airport in Neuilly" well, you are maybe right but there are a lot of "Neuilly" in France and it maybe was on a military airfield, i haven't found yet where the training occured. Sensi.fr

--- Maybe needs a bit of a tidy up as its very sensationalised....

FireBadger

Which part? Sensi.fr ---

The GIA is linked to Bin Ladin? => perhaps; in any case, the GIA was striving for the establishment of an islamic state in Algeria ==> The GIA is older than Bin Laden

It is the first time that I've ever seen mention of US Marines being involved in this hostage crisis. Is there any confirmation? David.Monniaux 22:20, 14 Sep 2003 (UTC)

First time for me too. --172.196.20.2 13:50, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)

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what happened to the hijackers? Andy Mabbett 11:28, 19 Dec 2003 (UTC) ==> The were killed by the GIGN

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They died. WhisperToMe 03:33, 23 Jan 2004 (UTC)

What were the terrorists demands? ozoneliar 17 Jul 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Vandalized 2 National Geographic Channel video on AF8969 3 Gibberish 4 Discrepency with Discovery Channel show 5 Intelligence reports suggested ...

[edit] Vandalized

This page was vandalized by someone who didn't logged in. I reveresed it. In particular, unless someone proves that the US gouvernment intervened in this affair, I see no point to mention it.

[edit] National Geographic Channel video on AF8969

I am desperately trying to get hold of a good VHS (DVD :-) ) copy of this show......oakleybr@iafrica.com Brad`198.54.202.226 19:16, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gibberish

Someone vandalized the page. Or just had a brain explosion. Either way, I've just deleted the following gibberish. It had nothing to do with the article.

"During this hijacking,the four armed Algerian terrorists where simply trained by Ramzi Yousef and Abdul Murad.The thought of flying hijacked planes into landmarks was designed by Osama bin Laden and Al-Qaeda.This hijacking was a failure,but 9/11 was a result in Radical Islam and possibly future hijackings."

If it's not gibberish then would someone explain the relevence?

[edit] Discrepency with Discovery Channel show

The article states that "The negotiation team decided to divert the flight to Marseille International Airport, some five hundred miles south of Paris. Air traffic controllers in the tower secretly communicated to the crew of Flight 8969 to tell the hijackers that they didn't have enough fuel to make it all the way to Paris."

However, in a recent Discovery Channel episode of the show "Mayday", titled "Killing Machines", it is stated that the plane really didn't have enough fuel to make it to Paris because the plane's APU (Auxiliary Power Unit) had been left on. The APU is a small jet engine in the tail that primarily provides electrical power for the plane, and it is said to consume 4 tons of fuel per day. They also didn't mention anything about secret communications about pretending about not having enough fuel.

Guspaz 01:57, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Both sources are correct. In the Discovery Channel episode the captain tells the hijackers that the APU has used so much fuel that they cannot make it to Paris. He did so because he was told to do so. I am a pilot, and I know that the APU of an A300 does not use 4 tons of fuel per day. Also, the plane had extra fuel on board because every flight is loaded with more fuel than necessary, in case of an emergency that requires the plane to stay in the air for an extended period. Obviously the pilot exaggerated the figure and made the situation seem worse than it was to make sure they would land. The truth of the matter is that they could have made it to Paris.

You are a pilot? If so than you must not pilot a heavy. The APU on an A300 does indeed use up to 4 tons of fuel to run for 24 hours. In fact, depending on the load, it can exceed 5 tons. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.170.101.237 (talk) 05:29, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Intelligence reports suggested ...

I wrote: "Intelligence reports suggested that the hijackers intended to fly the plane into the Eiffel Tower in Paris, or blow it up over the city; a maximum fuel load would make the Airbus into a flying bomb." I can't give a printed or web reference for this (maybe somebody can?). It was stated in a programme on the UK BBC2 television channel which included interviews with many surviving crew, passenger, gendarme, and political eyewitnesses at 21:00 on 29 April 2008 that a mole in the GIA terrorist group informed the French authorities of the intentions of the hijackers. I think the programme can be viewed on the BBC website for 1 week after transmission. Pol098 (talk) 22:53, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Unlike BBC radio BBC television is only accessible from within the UK. Here's the page for the relevant episode which runs through the salient points including the Eiffel Tower as target. And there was I thinking 'the world changed' on 9/11. Hmmm... Hakluyt bean (talk) 22:39, 6 May 2008 (UTC)