Talk:AIDS pandemic
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What do you think are the main causes of AID'S is it the blood transfusion, drugs or is it mostly homosexualtity spreading the diseas.
[edit] Pandas?
Claims are made in the beginning of the article that the pandemic originated from pandas. Is this a stupid pun, or is it actually true?
88.90.232.226 (talk) 01:14, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
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- It's vandalism. AIDs is generally believed by scientists to have come from Chimpanzees in Africa. If you follow the 'citation' for the panda thing, it's actually about chimpanzees. Its origins are certainly African. There's no argument at all for it originating in Asia, especially when they were one of the last to get the pandemic. Ill change the line accordingly 86.2.38.112 (talk) 16:40, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] transmission mode of HIV
1. This article goes into depth about the crisis in Africa but not much else. Here is a question: If the only way that people outside of Africa and Western Europe get AIDS is through "intravaneous drug use, paid sex and male-male homosexual contact" Why do ANY children have it?!! Obviously heterosexual transmission is a factor here. This article is so imbalanced it's not funny. There are a lot of steroeotypes evident here. you guyz are gay
And to the person who wrote the comment below this one...is the US not a developed country? AIDS is just as prevalent in heterosexual communities as homosexual communities.
2. Must get terminology right here...HIV causes AIDS so that question is what is the main mechanism of transmission of HIV between individuals. THe answer is that it depends...in developed countries it is mainly confined to populations engaging in male to male sex and injecting drug use, though the latter is a more common mechanism of transmission in the USA than in Europe. In South East Asia and Central and Eastern Europe it is concentrated among MSM, IDU and sex worker populations though this usually enters the general population though interaction with these groups. Infection through blood transfusion still does occur for example in Eastern China an estimated 500 000 people were infected by blood products in the early part of this century. So provide an accurate assessment of the mechanism of transmission really have to go country by country, region by region....and of course transmission is modified by health policy
[edit] Effect of policy on transmission
I think we need to emphasize that the transmission of HIV is governed by local and national policies. For example Thailand and Cambodia have been able to reduce transmission as a result of increased condom use particularly among sex workers, Australia prevented HIV spreading among injecting drug users by introducing comprehensive harm reduction programs. Those countries which prohibit or don't facilitate condom availability or the availability of clean injecting equipment tend to experience increase rates of HIV particularly among high risk populations.
[edit] HIV+ rate, South Africa
Someone had this at 21.5% of the population. I revised this sharply downward to 12.4%. If you'd like to check my math (and I suggest you do): SA's population is reported to be 44.2 million (CIA World Factbook. UNAIDS estimates that 5.5 million people (children and adults over 15) are living with HIV. 5.5 million is 12.4% of 44.2 million.
The UNAIDS 2005 report is out, so maybe some brave person (maybe even me, if I have time) would like to similarly revise all of the numbers cited in the article. --Birdmessenger 22:28, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Splitting
I have now split off the regional subsections into their own regional sub-articles, so that this article can now be made shorter, and the specialist regional sections, now each in their own article, can be expanded further. -- The Anome 00:15, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Is this right?
"Sub-Saharan Africa remains by far the worst-affected region, with 23.8 million to 28.9 million people living with HIV at the end of 2005" 23.8 to 28.9 million? there is a very large difference here. is it supposed to be 28.8 to 28.9? or is it really such a large uncertainty?
[edit] Methamphetamine
Not everyone is familiar with the drug, so I think it is important to mention that methamphetamine is generally not used as an intravenous (injected) drug, and is not a route by which HIV is transmitted.
[edit] HIV/AIDS in Canada
Why is there no info in the HIV/AIDS in North America section about HIV/AIDS in Canada?
[edit] Dirie keeps making false statements
I've contacted Dirie about AIDS and it's origin, and he still keeps changing that it originated from either China or Asia.
Mustafus 02:47, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] How is aids spread?
We really need a subsection about this in every location —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jftsang (talk • contribs) 10:15, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Maps are in conflict with each other
The second map shows the total number of HIV infected people in Russia as 500,000 to 1,000,000.
Based on Russia's population of 142,754,000 this means between 0.35% and 0.7% of the population is infected.
But the first map says that 1% to 5% of the population is infected.
Stupid mistakes like this is why Wikipedia is not and will never be taken seriously as a source of information.
The second map is the correct one if anyone cares. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.169.227.74 (talk) 21:14, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Began updating the figures.
Much of the data in this article was based on the inaccurate 2005 figures. These have been heavily revised downward with the 2007 UNAIDS and WHO report that recently came out. I've updated the table and intro, but the article itself repeats many of these numbers. There's still a lot of work needed to bring this whole article up to date with the more accurate recent numbers. Here's the report if anyone wants to help out here. http://data.unaids.org/pub/EPISlides/2007/2007_epiupdate_en.pdf Gigs (talk) 22:34, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Delete the part about Islamic countries
I have no idea what the person who wrote this was thinking. From the looks of it they wanted to prove that Islam had nothing to do with HIV rates.
It is noteworthy that among the countries with the lowest incidence rates many non-muslim countries are found, such as Japan, North and South Korea, the Philippines, Mongolia, Romania, Bosnia&Hercegovina etc. It is also noteworthy that some predominantly muslim Countries such as Nigeria, Sudan or Somalia have high prevalence rates, thus presenting the issue of AIDS and religious affiliation as not that straight-forward.
1: Somalia is in a state of anarchy and has been for the last 17 years expect for the brief period of 6 months in 2006. It's really to get accurate data from it since most medical facility if it exists at all is very basic. How ever what has been accertained is that Somalia has low HIV rates. It even says so in the Somalia page.
The breadth of the AIDS pandemic has led to the idea in the West that the entire continent is ravaged by the disease. But Somalia — isolated for 14 years since the civil war began and populated by devout Muslims — has an infection rate of perhaps only 1.5 or 2 per cent of the adult population.
2: Nigeria is a Christian and Muslim country. The number of infected people in Nigeria by African Standards. Funnily enough. The places with the highest infection rates tend to be Christian. The Muslim areas in north tend to have either very low rates or practically non-existent.
3: Japan,South Korea,Romania,Bosnia (which is a partly muslim country) Are developed in comparison to Africa. These countries tend to have high rates of literacy compared to African countries and more education. Also they benefit from the fact that their neighbours have very low rates.
4: North Korea is isolated from the world. It's natural for them to have very low rates. Mongolia is a big sparsely populated countries near sparsely populated parts of their neighbours.
HIV isn't straight forward but Religion does play a part in it. Furious Stormrage (talk) 15:25, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

