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(cur) (last) . . 01:08, 18 Aug 2003 . . Vancouverguy (Singapore gondola is not an aerial tramway)

Who says it isn't? It sure felt like one when I travelled on it! It uses gondolas carried on cables from the top of Mount Faber via a tower at the harbour and across to Sentosa Island. In what sense is that not an aerial tramway?????? Lee M 18:44, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Just a thought: could it be, that it is a Gondola lift? Can you describe it better, or is there a link in the web to Fotos? Thanks, Fantasy 21:55, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC)
Um, yes,now you come to mention it, the description does pretty well match my recollection of the Singapore cable car. Until now I had never considered the distinction between an aerial tramway and a gondola lift, and neither I suspect would 99% of the people who use them. - Lee M 02:33, 23 Aug 2003 (UTC)
A picture of the Cable Car in Singapore can be found at http://www.jdborges.com.br/photoalbum/singa/images/cablecar.jpg, which is a bi-cable gondola lift Those knowedgeable on the subject shoud agree that an aerial tramway is a spacific type of aerial lift - not just an broad term. Vancouverguy 02:42, 23 Aug 2003 (UTC)
Thanks for the image. To me it looks like a Gondola lift. Just to give you my interpretation: In German there is a distinction between a "Seilbahn" and a "Lift". The Gondola is the problem. If there is an open seat, we call it "Lift", if it is two Gondolas, it is a "Seilbahn", If there are more then 2 Gondolas (e.g. Singapore), some call it "Seilbahn", some call it "Lift"... Where do we draw the line? Fantasy 07:55, 23 Aug 2003 (UTC)
Someone more knowledgeable on the subject than me needs to spell out the difference between a gondola lift and an aerial tramway, preferably both in this article and the one at gondola lift! [[User:Grutness|Grutness hello? ]] 12:40, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Quoting the explanation by dramatic at Talk:Gondola lift for reference. Gestumblindi 02:38, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC) :
As the aerial tramway article says, it has a fixed cable on which the cabin runs, and another cable which does the pulling. This design can usually only accommodate one or two cabins. If two, they are often counterbalanced to each other. A Gondola lift, however, has no fixed cable, just a lopped moving cable to which the cabins are affixed. dramatic 09:12, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Jackson Hole

Regarding Jackson Hole link to Teton Village - Jackson Hole redirects to Jackson Wyoming, it shouldn't. These two are really not the same. Jackson is the name of the town. Jackson Hole is the name of the ski resort. The Jackson Hole ski resort is in Teton Village, Wyoming. There is another ski hill in Jackson, Wyoming, (Snow King) that is considerably smaller than Jackson Hole. Jackson and Teton Village are about 10 miles apart. --rld 69.5.156.155 21:28, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC) 21 Jun 3004
If I recall correctly, the tram cars at Jackson Hole ride on steel bars, not cables. Is this unusual or is this normally the case? A cable does pull the cars. rld 69.5.156.155 21:28, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)
I'm not sure what you mean. According to the picture at http://www.jacksonhole.com/tram/ , the passenger cabin seems to ride on cables as usual. Do you mean the steel bars on which the cabin is moving up and down the support cable (pulled by the second cable)? They are normal. Gestumblindi 01:30, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Swiss Trams moved

I've moved the extensive list of Swiss trams to List of aerial tramways in Switzerland - the list was extensive, comprehensive, and very very long for a non-list page. It's linked to under the Switzerland heading. Important or separately notable Swiss trams are still on the main page. --ABQCat 18:42, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Thank you, you are right, it was indeed a bit long for this article ;-). Gestumblindi 23:18, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Tochal tele-cabin

Tochal tele-cabin in Iran is a gondola lift, not an aerial tramway.

Yes, it looks indeed like a gondola lift at http://www.tochalcomplex.com/ , I'll move it to the gondola lift article. Gestumblindi 11:11, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Moanda-Mbinda cable car

This was apparently the longest cable car in the world. Does anyone know whether it was an aerial tramway or a gondola life? Either way, it should be included in the relevant article. Warofdreams 18:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Norsjö, Sweden

There is a ropeway in Norsjö, Sweden which was the world's longest when it was completed in 1943. It was used for transport of ore. today it is a tourist attraction where part of the ropeway (13 kilometres) is used for tourists. Should this be mentioned in this article, or better somewhere else? link with more info, mostly in SwedishAEriksson 09:58, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

According to the definition the Norsjö is not an arial tramway. It has loose gondolas drawn with a cable on an carrier cable. I do not know if the sorry remains has many pulling cables or only one, the original had many, and many loading and turning stations along the line, was built for the carriage of ore (mainly copper and zink with a hefty proportion of gold impurities.

In my humble opinion it is the definition that is wrong.Seniorsag 21:04, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Heights of Abraham

Heights of Abraham is listed on both this article, and the gondola lift article. If someone knows which it is, please remove it from the incorrect list (and correct the Heights of Abraham article as necessary). --Vclaw 12:45, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Removed Text

Here is the text that I removed:

Persian: تله کابين

Madmaxmarchhare 17:56, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] list of accidents

For the 2005 September 9 accident in Sölden, Austria: I hiked by the site on 2005 September 13 and was shown by passing professional guides which lift was struck by a small building part carried by helicopter. It looked like a gondola lift to me. I found online video and more in-depth reporting than CNN (which called it a cable car) clearly showing a gondola.

What's the conventional wisdom here? Should this incident be moved to the gondola article? — EncMstr 19:22, 6 December 2006 (UTC)