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Contents 1 Poorly Sourced & Consequentially Wildly Inaccurate 2 Archive 3 Sanskrit and Malayalam 4 Visarga is missing 5 आदि शंकर 6 featured article editing 7 Interesting... 8 Dear Hinduism Project members 9 Dates 10 Upanishad Bhasyas 11 Defeating The Jainas 12 Sources cited 13 Adi Shankara's Gotra 14 Proposal to rename this article 15 Debate with Ubhaya Bharati

[edit] Poorly Sourced & Consequentially Wildly Inaccurate

hi, this article is severely poor. im not sure if anyone has realised but the main text to which the information about sankara is credited Sankara-Dig-Vijaya is actually a mythological text written around 1600 AD called a hagiography that bears little or no relevance to the historicity of the life of sankara. as an example, it is seriously academically doubted that sankara founded the mathas - though this is accepted as hindu tradition it should be noted so and not as historical fact as this is far from the truth. indeed, even the dating here is innacurate. i'm a 2nd year indian civilisation student at the university of edinburgh, and am in the middle an essay on sankara so dont have time to edit the article myself, but i can point anyone interested in the direction of a number of academic works.

a hagiography is a mythological/folk tale written around 1000 years after sankaras death to eulogise him in the face of contention from other religions. it is contextually reactive and other than indicating to one the reverence of sankara it has no historical value !

luke. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.112.72.23 (talk) 15:17, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Archive

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[edit] Sanskrit and Malayalam

I noticed that the pronunciation of some Malayalam words are given in IAST system. I was wondering if IAST could transliterate Malayalam correctly too? Are all the sounds in Malayalam portray-able in IAST? -- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK}13:37, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

• This convention should be applied to any language spoken in the Indian subcontinent that is written in an Indic script. The major languages are: Assamese, Bengali, Gujarati, Hindi, Kannada, Konkani (when written in Kannada or Devanagari scripts), Malayalam, Marathi, Nepali, Oriya, Pali, Punjabi (when written in Gurmukhi script), Sanskrit, Sinhala, Tamil, Telugu.

from: Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Indic)--^Babub→Talk 15:05, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay, so I guess that means Malayalam can indeed be expressed in IAST. I had asked because there are a few sounds in Dravidian languages that do not exist in North Indian languages. -- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK}15:32, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Pronunciation of the name differ in each language. So which one should be represented using IAST? -Cibu 04:33, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

आदि शंकर is incorrect ; ( ङ ) should be used instead of (.) . Bharatveer 06:29, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Bharatveer, Could you give the complete word with proper spelling, in devanagari? Thanks, --^Babub→Talk 14:24, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

• shankara in malayalam should be written as ശങ്കര rather than ശങ് കര activevoid 17:47, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

• Instead of coding {{unicode|ആദി ശങ്കര}} , ir can be written ആദി ശങ്കര directlyactivevoid 07:04, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Bharatveer for correcting the devanagiri spelling! ^Babub→Talk 13:19, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Visarga is missing

Please add visarga after the word आदि शंकर in Devanagari. Apnavana 02:45, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] आदि शंकर

My computer has indic enabled, yet I see the hindi/ devnagari spelling wrong in the article page. Can anyone explain why? Its comes ok here. Is unicode causing it to come out wrongly there? -- Lost^(talk) 06:26, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Both come out okay for me, what do you see on the article? Gizza^{Chat ©} 06:30, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

I see it just the way Indic template cautions against. Funnily, other articles with indic are ok. I see even the slokas just above works section wrongly. Can you suggest a remedy? Maybe I need to redo the indic procedure -- Lost^(talk) 06:40, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Mine kind of screws up weirdly too. I am unable to see the character "ṅ" in the article window, but I can see it fine in the edit pane. I can't say I have any experience with Indic scripts though.  freshofftheufoΓΛĿЌ  05:53, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] featured article editing

This article is posted as a featured article. What is not said is that the article as featured is edited. I don't know how the editing is done, but leaving out the birth/death years makes the article very weak. Kdammers 06:13, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

what about the entire "dates" section? The man lived some time in the 8th or 9th century, that's about all that is known with any certainty. dab (ᛏ) 15:18, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Interesting...

Hi,

I just finished a cource in Comparative Religion at Uppsala University in Hinduism and Buddism and now I find that Adi Shankara is Today's featured article :-) Good idea,.. how is the prosess of choosing Today's featured article made?

In my MS Explorer (Swedish version) there is a bit strange signs: Malayalam: ആദി ശങ്കരന്‍,

Check out Eco Theology article if you whant some info about Ecology and Theology and please help to develop that article so that soon itcould be Today's featured article?

--Swedenborg 12:11, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Articles that are featured on wikipedia can make it to the front page through the process listed here. So, in order to get the Eco Theology article on the front page, you first need to get it featured. See What is a featured article? to know the criteria it should meet to be featured.

The "stange signs" you see might be incorrectly displayed Malayalam text. See WP:COMPLEX to correct the display.--thunderboltz^(Deepu) 17:09, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dear Hinduism Project members

Dear Hinduism Project members and others interested in Hindusim There is a controversy on the Hinduism regarding Raja Yoga. Please read the debate on the Hinduism discussion page. Your comments are requested on the Hinduism discussion page to help resolve the controversy. Thank you. HeBhagawan 14:46, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dates

If the modern scholarship is agreed on the 788 – 820 CE date, then shouldn't that be the date specified in the introduction? -Cibu 04:30, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Upanishad Bhasyas

Didn't Adi Shankara comment on Eleven upanishads? Syiem 13:14, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Defeating The Jainas

The following is an extract from the Dig-Vijaya sub-section of this article: "He then defeated the Jainas at a place called Bahlika". The word "defeated" does not clearly indicate the nature of defeat of the Jainas. Were they defeated militarily or in a debate? TathD 14:46, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, these wins talk about debates. Clarified in the article now. Thanks. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 15:04, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sources cited

The article cites three books: by Swami Tapasyananda, by Keay and by Greaves. Most of the references are to the book by Tapasyananda and there is only one to Greave's book and none to Keay's. COuld somebody please explain why it is like that or add some more inline citations? Kkrystian 10:38, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Adi Shankara's Gotra

Does anyone have the idea of Adi Shankara's Gotra?BalanceRestored 06:21, 6 July 2007 (UTC) There are local mythologies that his father was a Twoshta. Vedic decent of TWOSHTRI.There is a sloka in sankaradvigvijayam revealing his gothra as Abhuvana twoshta viswakarma.

  Acharyo sankaro nama
  Twoshta putra nisamshaya
  Viprakula gurorvdweeksha
  Viswakarman to brahmana

Sloka published in Kesari Annual magzine in 1978 by Dr. Sadasiva sharma ,Palakkad, Kerala. Wright up The gothrs or Viswakarma Rsi. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.164.229.5 (talk) 07:46, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Proposal to rename this article

The birth name of the subject of this article was Shankara and he was later given the title acharya. To distinguish him from his successors, each of whom assumed the name-title Shankaracharya, he was called Adi Shankaracharya. To call him Adi Shankara is incorrect (the first Shankara is Shiva). Therefore I propose that this article be renamed to Shankara. There is no reason for the Shankara disambiguation page to exist, as the name is usually associated with the subject of this article and it only rarely refers to Shiva besides.

Tseno Maximov (talk) 16:55, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Debate with Ubhaya Bharati

I find odd the statement that after forcing Shankara to acquire knowledge of kamashastra Ubhaya Bharati declined to debate with him. The biographies of Shnakara which I've read, both online and in print, state that the debate with Unhaya Bharati was completed.

Tseno Maximov (talk) 16:55, 27 November 2007 (UTC)