Talk:Accursed Lands

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I thought it might be a good idea to list external references here, so they can later be worked into the main article. --Fartmonger 11:44, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

The article's reading a bit like an advertisement at present, which isn't what the wiki is for. I think the world section should be rewritten more neutral language. - Fartmonger --I made the world section a less like an advert--Jayess

It would be nice to have some additional Accursed Lands history in the 1st section.

Also, it would be worthwhile to include an explanation detailing why AL is considered to be an important enough MUD to warrant a standalone article.

Article says that 6 creators came from DartMUD, whereas the DartMUD article explains it as follows: "In 1996, five DartMUD creators and one long-term player started Accursed Lands." Should this be changed?

The explanation should be changed slightly, all 6 of the original admin AL team came from DartMud. Thus, from AL's POV, "AL's first 6 creators" are from DartMUD. Whereas it is also true that one of the six was not a creator back in DartMUD so the reference there where "5 dartmud creators and 1 long-term player" left to form AL is also correct. I believe the player is Elija who spear-headed AL's theme directions for most of the years 1996-2001(?) as head theme admin. sousily@AL

The Original AL team was Lathander (Rix on Dartmud), Desla (me), Fangorn, Ulric, Pol, and Frederick (who was never a creator on DartMUD). I left to resume efforts on Dartmud pretty early on, and I don't remember Elija. Jclemens 23:32, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

I attempted to modify the summary regarding this but I think I'll leave it since I don't know how to word it properly without creating a complete mess of a first sentence. sousily@AL

I fixed it up, should make a little more sense now without making the sentence a mess.

DuncmanG 03:38, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

The world section advert feeling was probably my fault (most likely, since i wrote pretty much the whole thing). Thanks for fixing it up, Jayess.

Also, I'll check with the AL admin for the DartMUD discrepancy and see.

DuncmanG 16:48, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

The MMOG tag is great, though I'm not sure it falls under the conditions. Can anyone enlighten me as to whether the project is based around the MMOG definition of "lots of people online at once" or the definition "having the capability to have lots of people online at once"? If the first, then I don't think Accursed Lands fits (numbers have been steadily rising recently, but they still are usually around 20 or 30... not really "massive"), if the second, then it does (i don't know specifics, but I think in theory the servers can handle at least a thousand players).

Anyway, can someone from the project let me know?

DuncmanG 23:24, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree - AL is a MUD and does not fall under the MMOG category as defined in [MP_MMOG]. sousily@AL

The ability to support a massive amount of players online at once is one of AL's goals, but right now it probably doesn't fit into the MMOG category right now Fartmonger 17:25, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

This article has been vandalized by an administrator of another MUD. He is using vandalism of this article to justify changes to another article (the roleplay intensive MUDs article). He is then using that article (which he has altered substantially from the state it was in when concensus was reached about its wording) as a reference source in a long-winded argument that he's been having on a gaming-related discussion forum (top mud sites) in a peculiar attempt at boosting the prospects for his own game, at the expense of others. He has edited several lies into this article in the past -- such as erroneous claims about Accursed Land's 'death system' and provisions for OOC communications within the game, despite the fact that he is aware of the truth of the matter. It would be a good idea to keep an eye on this article and watch for changes to the facts about the game. Jayess (talk) 04:57, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Looks like someone did it again. I noticed the DartMUD link vanished. Yours to fix? Jclemens (talk) 20:43, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Yet again, vandalism. I undid this one. Should we seek partial page protection for this article? Jclemens (talk) 02:14, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Actually, just going to go ahead and request semi-protection to keep IP address users from editing this. Jclemens (talk) 02:23, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
... which was denied. Still, I'm going to keep an eye on it. Jclemens (talk) 02:30, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism by 98.196.210.86

98.196.210.86 appears to be a disgruntled player from the game, and probably isn't involved in any of the other recent edits. Kugrian (talk) 01:22, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

That user is about to come off a block; she won't be able to edit either of these pages for a bit after her block anyhow (I semi'd the main article first, then semi'd this page after he copypasted her vandalism here). I have the article watchlisted should she come back; if she decides to attack me instead, I have no qualms escalating her blocks within reason. -Jéské (v^_^v Detarder) 08:19, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dispute

There is a [disputed] tag after the statement "It is considered an RPI (role-playing intensive) MUD, and as such the focus is on roleplaying rather than powergaming." yet I see no history here of dispute. Someone please state their objection or I shall remove the tag.--OGRastamon (talk) 00:34, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

The disputed tag was an effort on my part to mollify an editor who objected to the tag, against the wishes of another editor who is involved with the mud in question. Actually, the entire statement could probably be removed as unsourced--I have no heartburn with that. Jclemens (talk) 01:50, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
I reworded the line in question. I hope it's enough to end the 'dispute'.Fartmonger (talk) 09:50, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
I never really considered it a disputable fact to begin with--the source and the rewording should end any reasonable controversy, IMHO. Jclemens (talk) 13:45, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 'Unofficial AL Wiki'

I have removed the links to the 'unofficial wiki' websites. One of them doesn't seem to exist any more, and had no content anyway.

The other, accursed-lands.net, is a site controlled by 2 disgruntled creators. It serves some stolen theme material. This information is copyrighted, and subject to change. We'd rather keep it off AL's official wikipedia page if possible. Fartmonger (talk) 16:47, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

AL (or any MUD) doesn't have an "official" Wikipedia page per se. However, the fact that it would be a link to inappropriately used copyrighted material makes the link off-limits. I'll remove it promptly if I see it again. Jclemens (talk) 17:02, 21 May 2008 (UTC)