Talk:Abu Ammaar Yasir Qadhi

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Why was the reference to Yasir Qadhi's Salafism removed? If you do a Google Search you will find that the Google Cached version states:

"Abu Ammaar Yasir Qadhi is a lecturer and Islamic cleric of Salafi persuation (sic) who has authored several books about Islam."

Yet, that was removed and now states:

"Abu Ammaar Yasir Qadhi is a lecturer and Islamic cleric who has authored several books about Islam."

Why are the Salafis always trying to hide their own Salafism? Wikipedia's rules on biographies state:

"This article must adhere to the policy on biographies of living persons. Controversial material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately, especially if potentially libelous. If such material is repeatedly inserted or if there are other concerns relative to this policy, report it on the living persons biographies noticeboard."

The fact that Yasir Qadhi is a Salafi is one of the most properly sourced facts about him! The Washington Post on the Wahhabi (a.k.a. "Salafi") movement in the USA which is referenced by this very Wikipedia entry (!!!) states:

"Qadhi, who was born in Houston and graduated from Saudi Arabia's Islamic University of Medina, is getting his doctorate in Islamic studies at Yale University -- a sign, he said, of how second-generation Muslims are adapting. 'It's unprecedented that a Salafi is doing a graduate degree at an Ivy League school,' said Qadhi, 31. 'Our forebears would see that as anathema.'"

Wahhabis can insist that they are the so-called "saved sect" all they want. This is America and we champion free speech. Yet, to hide the fact that they are Wahhabis and/or Salafis is purely subterfuge and guile. I protest this trickery in the Wikipedia article so I am putting the Salafi reference back. If it is removed at least this is logged so the guile can be exposed.

As a personal friend of Yasir, he insists he no longer associates with this labeling. Your last paragraph shows your prejudiced reasons for adding the reference. It is a POV point, and you cannot find any other references where he stated this or if he was part of an organization that states it in the mission. You can't force labels on people.
Also keep in mind that due to some splits within the Salafi movement, especially in the US and UK, it's sometimes difficult to define who is "really Salafi" and who isn't. MezzoMezzo 18:40, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Added common criticisms of Shaykh Qadhi: Although he does refer to himself and the movement as salafi, i've left that out as there seems to be some contention about using the term (i don't know why?) - AN, 1 Sep 2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.104.39.44 (talk) 23:15, 31 August 2007 (UTC)



If someone wants to re-edit, the least they can do is give a reason and/or source. No point acting like jahhil/cowardly bullies in primary school. -- AN —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.104.39.44 (talk) 19:27, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

please see Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons#Sources, wordpress blogs aren't reliable sources... especially for material on living people. ITAQALLAH 19:46, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

They are criticisms & not of a personal nature, and I've sourced the criticism? I hope u can see the subtle difference between a 'criticism' and a 'fact'? Why did you remove the "external link" to the blog?

i understand that they are criticisms. see WP:BLP#Criticism- any such criticisms must be reliably sourced (as established above, blogs are not reliable sources, and should not be used at all in biographies of living people). the link was removed as blogs aren't accepted as external links either: WP:EL#Links_normally_to_be_avoided. ITAQALLAH 20:26, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The source is the the Washington Post not a blog!

Since when is the Washington Post with whom Yasir openly admitted being a Salafi a "Wordpress Blog". Instead of calling people "jahil" why don't you openly address the fact that Yasir DOES INDEED refer to himself openly as a Salafi yet his followers are desperately trying to conceal this fact! It's almost like Christians insisting Jesus is God when he said no such thing. Yasir openly admits being a Salafi and his followers desperately try and cover up his admissions. Ironic. Again, the source is the WASHINGTON POST and unless you can find a source equally reliable where Yasir says he is NOT a Salafi then call a spade a spade and stop covering it up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.222.183.220 (talk) 19:58, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sh. Yasir Qadhi is Hafidh of the Qur'an

Why is there no mention of Sh. Yasir's memorization of the Qur'an? Aside from simply memorizing it, I believe he has memorized it in more than one style of recitation. These are probably his most noble credentials, yet, there is no mention of it. Can someone please consult Sh. Yasir about these credentials and then post them in this Wiki entry? Thank you.

Shiblizaman (talk) 19:12, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Please refer to core content policy Wikipedia:Verifiability. Any material presented must be verified by sources, especially when it involves biographies of living people such as this. That's not to say memorisation is doubted, it just means it needs to be appropriately sourced when added. ITAQALLAH 23:17, 14 February 2008 (UTC)