Talk:Abraham Zapruder
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Can anyone verify this latest entry (the FBI note?) --Magicker71 17:43, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
With Wikipedia user Gamaliel repeatedly deleting the freely available, documented, and printed Warren Commission reference (Warren Commission Document, CD87) of Abraham Zapruder sensing a shot come from behind Mr. Zapruder during the assassination, it is transparent that Gamaliel is more interested in hiding and censoring a Warren Commissioned documented reference than he is in presenting a documented fact. 205.188.116.11 22:22, 26 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- It's quite simple and it has nothing to do with the Warren Commission or censorship. Wikipedia is not the place to present the full text of memos. Wikisource is. This is an encyclopedia, and we don't present primary sources here. See Wikipedia:Don't include copies of primary sources [[User:Gamaliel|Gamaliel Image:Watchmensmiley20.gif]] 22:46, 26 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- + Category:Freemason? -- Scriberius 09:34, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Pop culture
Three of the four entries were not about Zapruder, they were about his film, and the fourth, the Marilyn Manson one, is too trivial to really mention. We don't need to mention every time a song's lyrics mention someone. --Golbez 07:21, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
- Okay, good argument, and I've moved them. But instead of just deleting them, you could have moved them yourself. Don't just delete on Wikipedia. That's lazy and ultimately destructive. Do not delete-- improve. Our motto. If it's in the wrong place, fix it. SBHarris 09:40, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
- I will delete trivia I see as unuseful, especially when it's in the wrong article. I am not destroying, I am sprucing. Once a bit of useless trivia is on Wikipedia, it does not get to live there for eternity. --Golbez 16:57, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Rush-Holland article
The Rush-Holland opinion piece is one of numerous theories about the Zapruder film, a film about which entire books of which have been written from the various sides of the controversy. Because this is a biographical article about Abraham Zapruder, and not the Zapruder film article, I am parking the newly added section below:
- The Zapruder film has often been seen as a "complete record of the Kennedy assassination". This view is, however, challenged by Max Holland, author of "The Kennedy Assassination Tapes", and the professional photographer Johann Rush in a joint editorial piece published by The New York Times on November 22, 2007.[1] Holland and Rush point out that Zapruder temporarily stopped filming at frame 132, when only police motorcycles were visible. When he resumed filming, frame 133 already shows the presidential motorcade in view. This pause could have great significance for the interpretation of the assassination, Holland and Rush suggest. One of the sources of controversy with the Warren Report has been its difficulty in satisfactorily accounting for the sequencing of the assassination. A specific mystery concerns what happened to the one of Oswald's three shots that missed (and how he came to miss at what was assumed to be close range). Holland and Rush argue that the break in the Zapruder film might conceal a first shot earlier than analysts have hitherto assumed, and point out that in this case a horizontal traffic mast would temporarily have obstructed Oswald's view of his target. In the authors' words, "The film, we realize, does not depict an assassination about to commence. It shows one that had already started."
