Talk:Abd el-Krim

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[edit] The Rif are Berbers, not Arabs

That is true. Also, Abd el Krim had not a regular army, but a series of kabilae, which were united after him on the call of a yidah against the unfaithful. I cannot understand why this article silences the systematic violations of the international war agreements by Abd el Krim's forces, such as torturing prisoners (which included castrating and miming them) prior to killing them with a horrible death, like burning them alive or tiding their arms with their own guts.

If you can provide credible evidence (and sources) for these claims, by all means add them. They sound suspiciously like propaganda to me, though... - Mustafaa 19:32, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC)

That is unbelievable. He trains to make good jokes! See this film, and you will discover that he was very friendly with Jean-Claude van Damme:

http://www.maddvd.com/dvd/jpg_titre/Legionnaire.jpg Read3r 13:34, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name

Shouldn't the name of the article be the transliteration of his official full name? I find this to be a persistent problem on Wikipedia. I am not saying that we remove the Maghribi pronunciation of his name, but reverse the order by naming the article after his official name, and then putting other AKA's on the top as we have currently. A.Khalil 14:58, Mar 18, 2005 (UTC)

I agree to add the official name, without ignoring the real name, so that wikipedia won't mirror the official world.Read3r 13:26, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

I expanded some parts. The source for the additions is War in the Shadows: The Guerrilla in History by Robert B. Asprey for iUniverse Publishing on page 267-274. Where it states 10,000 were killed and Silvestre died, you can use The History of Spain by Peter Pierson for Greenwood Press page 126. Page 127 covers his exile to the island and specified the location in the Indian Ocean. The date of surrender originated from The Reader's Companion to Military History by Robert Cowley and Geoffrey Parker, published by Houghton Mifflin on page 1. Location of surrender and why he was released is from Who's Who in Military History: From 1453 to the Present Day by John Keegan and Andrew Wheatcroft under Routledge Publishing, page two. The section about his arrest is noted in Modern Spain, 1875-1980 by Raymond Carr for Oxford University Press on page 94