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[edit] NOTICE: There is heavy vandalism on this page (5/20/07, 7:30 PM EST) I do not have time to fix it...someone else please fix it.

I did a revert, but I might have screwed it up :( First attempt ever... Noliver 04:35, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

I copied and pasted a previous edit from 5/22/07 at 19:36. If there were any legit changes made after that, they may need to be readded. Shawn W 18:34, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was move. —Nightstallion (?) 09:52, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed Move from ABC News (USA) to ABC News

  • Support-Most of the links to ABC News are for ABC News (USA). Besides, who will correct all of the links to ABC News that are supposed to go to the US news organization? Whoever moved this article from ABC News to ABC News (USA) can't just leave everyone else to relink everything. Move the page back to ABC News. Jonyyeh 01:56, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Support-This is what is likely to be searched for. Georgia guy 13:13, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Oppose - People in the USA may be searching for this article, but equally others from english speaking countries like Australia will be primarily searching for the Australian ABC News. Therefor ABC News should be a disambiguation page. Canderra 17:10, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Support - I agree with Georgia guy; when most people search for ABC News anywhere, they are searching for the American ABC News and not the Australian, or any other, version. Therefore, it is only fair that the main search term be directed to this page. Thistheman 20:53, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Support - As per Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Primary topic, based on the fact that there currently is no disambiguation page, and the fact that Special:Whatlinkshere/ABC News currently shows that the majority of links in existing articles pertaining to the American news organization are pointing to ABC News. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 19:25, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Support Pacific Coast Highway (blahtypa-typa) 19:40, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Oppose, create a disambiguation page. People who live in the US shouldn't assume that the US version of something should be the default, or the most likely, of anything. - Richardcavell 22:22, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
Comment; no one said default, we said most common. Pacific Coast Highway (blahtypa-typa) 22:27, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Support. Most common/Passing primary disambiguation thru a redir is a waste of time and resources/With only two topics, top-of-page disambiguation better than a disambig page. (and FWIW ABC News (United States) would probably be better than USA) Seattlenow 00:48, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Support. It may just be a function of the USA's sheer population relative to Australia, but the US "ABC News" is by far the most common meaning worldwide. And "American Broadcasting Company News" is just wrong, since it's never called that on air. Kirjtc2 14:49, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Oppose per Canderra & Richardcavell. --Ptcamn 15:22, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

[edit] Old discussions

This is a really bad title. American Broadcasting Company News would probably be better. RickK 06:16, 14 Sep 2003 (UTC)

No problem. I don't care what it's at, so long as it isn't yet another American thinking that the rest of the world doesn't exist. I'll move it as you suggest. Tannin

You're quite right .. though i added a redirect from ABC_News .. thought as it is mentioned like that quite often in articles. Ebricca 18:14, 16 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I know there is little chance of anybody reading this since these comments were made ages ago, but why? What's wrong with "ABC News"? That's what it's called... Watch your local ABC station. They don't say "American Broadcasting Company News"... --Peng 15:07, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
The problem is that "ABC News" can refer to multiple items, mainly Australian BC News and American BC News. Both have an equally valid claim to the name and so the obvious solution is to append a (USA) or (Australian) suffix on the end and make "ABC News" a disambiguation page, listing both articles. I don't see what the problem with this obvious solution is? I just can't understand why it wasn't done years ago. Canderra 02:41, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] explaining revert

The fact that this entity is owned by the Walt Disney Company is mentioned in the article and in the article's catigorization. Therefore, the see also section is unnecessary. Gentgeen 06:09, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Redirect from ABC News

This really needs a redirect from ABC News, or nobody's gonna visit this page.

ABC News does redirect here, and it has so since September 2003 (look up a few inches in this talk page).... o_O
Also, could you please put "--~~~~" at the end of your comments so that other people know who you are and when you made your comment? --Peng 15:04, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Those old news briefs

I remember back in the 1980s when ABC ran news briefs during breaks from programming. There was even a sports brief (done by Dick Schapp) and a business brief. These briefs always had me associate ABC News with the 1980s. And also, what about the old Weekend Report? If you don't believe the importance of mentioning ABC's prior use of briefs, how come briefs are mentioned in the CBS News article? SOMEONE PLEASE GET THE FACTS AND POST ABOUT THIS UNFORGETTABLE SEGMENT OF ABC NEWS. -Amit

[edit] a sheriffs departments neglet

i have astory to tell. to personanel to have posibly spread all over the web.....

[edit] Heavy Christian Emphasis

Having watched probably about a dozen episodes of the ABC Evening News program on late-night cable from my home country of the UK over the past few months, I couldn't help but notice a very prominent Christian underpinning to pretty much every show. To date, I think every episode I've seen has shown atleast one or more stories which have either featured interviews with members of the clergy or stories which have had some form of religous emphasis.

This seemed extremely odd to me as here in the UK it is quite rare to see a religous figure or for stories to have a religous emphasis on the evening news programs. I am wondering therefore, is ABC News known for having a particularly evangelical Christian overtone or does religion just feature reguarly on most US TV news programs? Canderra 20:57, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

I've noticed that too, and I'd say it arrived with the departure of Peter Jennings. I believe the management of ABC News made a deliberate decision to try to appeal to a completely different market segment and saw the change of anchorship as the obvious indication of their new direction. And so every episode has to have at least one story arranged to pander to American Christian conservatives. I don't know if it will work for them; speaking just for me, I changed the channel. If I wanted that sort of news, I'd have already been watching Fox News.
Absent a quote from management or some media-watch group, though, I don't think we can include this in the article, no matter how obvious it is to us.
Atlant 22:49, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
This is one of the most surprising comments I've heard about network news in awhile. I stopped watching any network news except Fox when the Iraq War started. I laugh when I hear people say Fox isn't conservatively biased; almost as hard as when someone says network news isn't liberally biased. While I'd prefer watch "objective" reporting, as a libertarian with conservative values my choice is an easy one. That being said, I'll have to check out ABC News once in awhile to see if they've changed as you say. Lawyer2b 03:56, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
Looks like it didn't work out for them all that well, even with Lawyer2b's added viewership. Down 10% of their audience/~1,000,000 viewers, Vargas out, ... Ahh well. Maybe they'll get back to real news now? They hit Denny Hastert pretty hard last night.
Atlant 13:55, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Logos

  • Why are the old logos gone? Why are logos vanishing around the 'pedia? WizardDuck 23:51, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Because people keep taking them away because of copyright issues and they don't want to get sued by ABC News--jsalims80 01:27, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New section about Liberal bias

Hi, I just did a little editing on the 'edges', so to speak, and I noticed a new section saying "While many do not call ABC News a Liberal-biased News Channel, it does subtly reflect this in much of it's reporting." I changed it to "While many do not call ABC News a Liberal-biased News Channel, it does subtly reflect this in much of it's reporting."

I don't know whether or not this is correct, but I wasn't sure whether that section should be there or not. Any thoughts?

Just as an aside, I think that a disambiguation page should've been established. --Will alpha-test for food. 03:41, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picture w/out Copyright tag

Where did that big promo picture come from? WAVY 10 21:40, 20 July 2007 (UTC)


[edit] ABC News (disambiguation)

shouldnt searching for 'ABC News' take you to ABC News (disambiguation) with the choice of going to either the Australianor the US one from there? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.220.143.202 (talk) 05:22, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

I agree, ABC leads to a disambiguation page and so should ABC News. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.208.109.169 (talk) 13:29, 28 December 2007 (UTC)