User talk:72.199.186.179

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Don't worry, not disrespect is taken, trying to sort such things out is what we are here for! Ok, here's how I see it - keep in mind that Space Marines live a very long time, I mean, Abaddon the Despoiler is in both the Horus Heresy series as well as the 40K game, as the Space Marine body is so well made, it is unknown how long they can actually live for (the originals at least, Garro was alive before Mortarion was even a part of the Imperium). And, considering that the Black Templars are an Imperial Fists successor chapter, it would make perfect sense if Helbrecht were once an Imperial Fists captain, so that when the day came that Robute Guilliman decided to split the Legions into Chapters, Rogal Dorn could have ordered Helbrecht in charge of the Black Templar Chapter. That's how I see it anyway - again, don't worry about angering or offending me, talking stuff through like this is the best way to come to a logical conclusion ^_^ ≈ The Haunted Angel 11:02, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Hmm, ok, let's firstly discuss the age thing. I realise that Abaddon's slow aging may be the result of the Eye of Terror's defiance of physical laws, but it is a fact that Space Marines age very slowly, if at all. I'm sure it states somewhere in Eisenstein that it's actually unknown if they do age (I may be thinking of just the Primarchs here). Also, remember it does state that Garro has been in the Death Guard Legion so long, he was there when the Emperor first found Mortarion on Barbarus, back then the Death Guard were called the "Dusk Raiders". Not to mention the fact that aside from the Primarchs, Qruze is the oldest Space Marine in the whole Horus Heresy series (I think that one was explained back in Horus Rising. Due to the Emperor's discovered ability that he can prevent his own aging, it would appear that the Space Marines inherited their father's ability to do such. This would also explain Dante's age. If this is true, then it's possible that Helbrecht (or Halbrecht) was not the High Marshall of the Black Templars until the date you specified above - but he was still alive until that point. ≈ The Haunted Angel 13:06, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
You actually have a very good point - ok, here's what I'll do: I'll remove the thing I put in the Eisenstein article, and commend you for your brilliant knowledge of 40K. If you had an account I'd probably throw a barnstar at you, for you raise very good points, and it looks like you really know your stuff (more then me, and I'm trying to get a job at the damn place!), so I'd say both your knowledge of 40K and your ability to discuss and argue it out is great. Lol, as a Wikipedian, it's probably my duty now to urge you to get an account. Thanks for the discussion ^_^ ≈ The Haunted Angel 00:44, 16 April 2007 (UTC)