User talk:69.113.2.145

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Hello, 69.113.2.145, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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[edit] First post-no title

Please be careful not to remove content from Wikipedia without a valid reason, which you should specify in the edit summary or on the article's talk page. Thank you. --digital_me(Talk•Contribs) 18:21, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing. However, unconstructive edits, such as those you made to MTV, are considered vandalism. If you continue in this manner you may be blocked from editing without further warning. Please stop, and consider improving rather than damaging the hard work of others. Thanks.

On this edit of yours: Please don't add information about yourself into articles about other people; it's regarded as vandalism. -- Hoary 15:19, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, as you did to JTA, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. A link to the edit I have reverted can be found here: link. If you believe this edit should not have been reverted, please contact me. Mike6271 23:04, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Aliens in America

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Aliens in America, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Eatcacti 01:03, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] White people

Hi, regarding your edit to White people,[1] please read our policy regarding original research. I accept that your motives are sincere, I just think you acted without realising that Wikipedia cannot reproduce the opinions or beliefs of individual editors. Primarily we are an encyclopaedia, as such we do not publish original thought, only that which has been previously published from reliable sources. I suggest that you can go and find a reliable source that supports your point of view and add this to the article. I also point you to our policy regarding a neutral point of view, this means that if an article expresses an opinion that you believe to be incorrect, you cannot simply remove the opinion due to your beliefs, unless it is not supported by a reliable source. Any opinion not supported by a reliable source can of course be removed at any time, though it is usually recommended to discuss it on the talk page first. OK, so if you have a reliable source that contradicts a claim made in an article, then you can include your source as well as the claim already made. In this way we achieve neutrality, by including both points of view, and by citing both. Thanks for your time, and please consider getting an account and contributing more regularly. Cheers. Alun 22:13, 10 November 2007 (UTC)


Well, it is racist and you cannot write that and i will get your articles

Well it's how the department of justice classifies people, maybe it is racist, but that's your opinion, which we cannot include in the article, see above. Take a look at this man, this is the FBI's website, this man is Iranian, and his "race" is described as white (Persian). Alun 10:37, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Thats great well fuck them im iranian and im not white think your right wow cuz the govt write its there wrong doesnt mean you should be im not white and you cant say that i am stop classifing people anyway they probably dont even know that not all iranians are persian and i doubt you knew that to at least write that other countries and people dont agree with the us census that middle easterners and north african people are white and i doubt that you really see a middle eastern person and think hes the same as you that you think hes white if you can differ middle easterners from white people they are most likely not white do your really think that this guy http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2006/0605/ahmadinejad0508.jpg and http://www.met.utah.edu/people/staff/P8260085.jpg/variant/person are of the same race just write that most people disagree with it and ill be fine because that is a true fact look into it

By the way, whether these people (Ahmadinejad and the other bloke who I don't recognise) are the same "race" or not is a question of what definition you use for "race". If you mean the strictly biological definition of subspecies, then all humans are the same subspecies (Homo sapiens sapiens, the second sapiens is the subspecies or "race" name, and all humans belong to it), we are all the same "race". If you mean the socially constructed concept of "race", then the answer depends on which society you are talking about, because all societies have different constructed "races". So basically what is, or is not a "race" really depends on where you come from, and often "when" you come from. In the USA in the 1920's, for example, Italian, Russian and Jewish people were not considered "white". All the best. Alun 07:38, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Well just calm down. I don't ever remember saying that I agreed with the FBI classification, or with any form of "racial" classification. I simply said that the article is discussing the classification system used by the department of justice, and that it is discussing it accurately. Clearly you don't identify as "white", well that's entirely up to you. You can identify how you like, "white" means many different things to many different people. This is not about what I believe, or about what you believe, it's about the accuracy of Wikipedia. So please stop jumping to conclusions about what I believe, because you have no idea what I believe, I have never said what I believe, I have only said what the department of justice says. This is not personal, so please stop getting hysterical. Alun 18:58, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

iight then but put something i about how most people dont agree with it you can look it up if you want

No, you need to provide evidence for your claims. If you include a claim without backing it up, then it will get removed. Wikipedia does have rules, I have explained this to you above. If you are not prepared to follow the rules, then you will get reverted every time. Think about what you want to do. It's clear that you feel strongly about this, therefore it seems obvious to me that if you put a little time into doing some research, you could easily come up with a reliable source that supports your point of view. Then you can include it in the article. You should avoid using weasel words like "most". If you want to make a claim then it's best to support it with a statistic. For example if you can find the results of a study or opinion poll that gives a firm statistic, for example "x piece of research found that y% of people do not identify Middle Eastern people as 'white'" would be best. Wikipedia is not here so you can express your opinion, you may well be right that most people in the USA don't identify Middle Eastern people as "white", but does this apply globally? Remember that WIkipedia is about verifiability not truth. I am trying to help you here, please assume good faith on my part. I assume that you want to contribute here constructively, so getting aggressive and ignoring the rules doesn't really help, we are all bound by the same set of rules here, and we can either follow them, or not contribute. Much information that is mentioned in Wikipedia is inaccurate and often biased, I agree with you, so the way to counter this is to provide information that is accurate and neutral, to do this we need to provide reliable sources so we can say, "look this point of view is expressed by this expert so it must be an acceptable point of view." All the best. Alun 07:19, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
ps you might be interested to see this. The answers are mainly ignorant, but it's about this subject. All the best. Alun 07:28, 12 November 2007 (UTC)