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[edit] My Ántonia

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, adding content without citing a reliable source, as you did to My Ántonia, is not consistent with our policy of verifiability. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you are already familiar with Wikipedia:Citing sources please take this opportunity to add your original reference to the article. Sources are needed to substantiate speculation about Cather being misled and the pronunciation sounding absurd to Czech ears. --Muchness 00:38, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Please do not add content without citing reliable sources, as you did to My Ántonia. Before making potentially controversial edits, it is recommended that you discuss them first on the article's talk page. If you are familiar with Wikipedia:Citing sources please take this opportunity to add your original reference to the article. Contact me if you need assistance adding references. Simply stating that someone is "obviously ignorant" and stating that someone was "perhaps misled", without providing any supporting evidence from reliable independent sources, is contrary to Wikipedia's policies regarding original research, the neutral point of view, and verifiability. --Muchness 00:53, 26 August 2007 (UTC)


Why don't you ask a Czech professor about the correct pronounciation? Try Jindřich Toman at the University of Michigan:

http://www.lsa.umich.edu/slavic/dept/faculty/toman.html

Regards, —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.42.133.153 (talk • contribs) 02:08, 26 August 2007

Hello, the problem is that information in Wikipedia articles must be sourced to reliable references. Your statements about Cather may be true, but without providing supporting evidence they constitute original research – that is, unpublished facts and unpublished analysis. What is needed is a source that meets Wikipedia's standards for reliable sources that addresses this issue and substantiates your statements. Regards.
(Note: I have taken the liberty of copying this discussion to Talk:My Ántonia#Pronunciation; perhaps we should continue this discussion there so that other interested editors may get a chance to weigh in.) --Muchness 02:42, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

OK, here's the problem. The Czech form of the name is Antonie (no written accent). The Slovak form is Antónia. Cather's usage (Ántonia) is attested in neither Czech nor Slovak. We're told in the novel that Ántonia is Bohemian, so we should supposedly focus on the Czech pronounciation. Still, one must wonder why Cather came closer to the Slovak spelling. Unless your editors are Czech linguists I'm not sure that they can say anything to the point. It's Cather's novel so she's free to misspell or mispronounce the name as she sees fit -- but it is important for readers to realize that it is a misspelling and mispronounciation.

Regards,


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