User talk:68.151.173.229

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[edit] Sixteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution

Dear anonymous user at IP68.151.173.299: Welcome to Wikipedia!

Regarding your comments on the talk page for the above-referenced article, the meaning of "there is an awful lot of 'ignore tax protesters' going on here" is unclear, but the purpose of the talk page for that article is to discuss ways to improve that article, not to discuss "tax protesters."

Also, Wikipedia articles include extensive treatment of tax protesters and their arguments. Indeed, Wikipedia includes no less than six different articles devoted exclusively to tax protesters and their arguments in general -- not counting other articles about individual protesters. If you want to read about tax protesters, then you should read the relevant articles.

There is no "dancing around the issue here." All you have to do is to read the articles.

No U.S. federal court has ever ruled that any tax protester argument is legally valid. All tax protester arguments that have been presented in courts of law in the United States have been ruled invalid. From the 1860s, when the first federal income taxes were imposed, to mid-March 2008, that is the state of the law. Not one single exception. None.

There is no such thing as someone being found "innocent on the whole 'no law requireing [sic] you to file' thing". However, on occasion, a few tax protesters have been found not guilty by a jury of criminal tax charges brought against them. Some of those cases are clearly documented in the related articles here.

Also, as clearly explained in Wikipedia, a jury verdict that a defendant is not guilty of a criminal tax charge is not a ruling by the court in favor of the tax protester's argument about what the law is. Indeed, the Tom Cryer case is a classic example where the tax protester's arguments were ruled to be invalid by the court -- and Cryer was still found not guilty by the jury at the end of the trial.

Not guilty verdicts for tax protesters in U.S. federal tax cases are very rare, but they do occur -- just as some people are found not guilty of murder, or theft, etc.

As stated over and over here in Wikipedia and in other places, saying that a "not guilty" verdict in a federal criminal tax case means that there's no law imposing the tax or that there's no law imposing a penalty for willful failure to pay the tax is like saying that a "not guilty" verdict in a murder case means that there's no law against murder, or no law imposing a penalty for murder. It's a nonsensical argument.

You may want to review the relevant Wikipedia articles. I would suggest that you do a search on the term "tax protester" for starters.

Again, welcome to Wikipedia, and happy editing! Yours, Famspear (talk) 16:26, 25 March 2008 (UTC)