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I changed the status to retired as the only remaining site dra.hmg.gb has now moved to http://www.dera.gov.uk/. Somone needs to change the status on other pages as well. Travelbird 10:18, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
- I don't know what "retired" is supposed to mean, but note that
hermes.dra.hmg.gbresolves to 146.80.9.16, so the TLD is still (barely) in use. --Zundark 10:33, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
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- When I type http://hermes.dra.hmg.gb into my browser I get an error message. I think they may have recently closed down that site. Or is there a way to reach this site ? Travelbird 10:58, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
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- I was just pointing out that they are still resolving DNS for
hermes.dra.hmg.gb, so presumably this domain is still used for something. The fact that http://hermes.dra.hmg.gb gives an error message indicates thathermes.dra.hmg.gbisn't being used as an HTTP server, but there are plenty of other things it could be being used for. --Zundark 11:44, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
- I was just pointing out that they are still resolving DNS for
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- Exactly; WWW ≠ Internet! dra.hmg.gb still exists as a DNS zone. I have amended the article accordingly. Letdorf 14:58, 29 November 2006 (UTC).
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- Pinging hermes.dra.hmg.gb [146.80.9.16] with 32 bytes of data:
- Request timed out.
- Request timed out.
- Ping statistics for 146.80.9.16:
- Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
- Looks dead to me, it resolves to an IP address but no other signs of life... --205.150.76.89 23:59, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
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- If it resolves to an IP address, then it exists in the DNS. Whether or not a host with that IP address is reachable from the Internet does not affect that. Letdorf 16:34, 19 August 2007 (UTC).
- But this may be from an Non-authoritative server. For instance in my case the answer is from a DNS server of my ISP, and in that case it is resolved, but if I try to contact any of the server listed in the domain servers list on the iana page, I got no answer, except if 128.16.5.32 is used as domain server. In any case this way of determine if such domain name exists is surely an 'original research that is not in agreement of the No original research policy of Wikipedia. -- AnyFile
- If it resolves to an IP address, then it exists in the DNS. Whether or not a host with that IP address is reachable from the Internet does not affect that. Letdorf 16:34, 19 August 2007 (UTC).
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- You only got a response from one of the .gb zone nameservers because hermes.dra.hmg.gb is actually in the dra.hmg.gb zone, not gb, and the two zones only share one nameserver. Yes, technically, I suppose this is original research...but how exactly do you cite a DNS query? :-). Letdorf 10:05, 24 August 2007 (UTC).
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Attempts to obtain a rational explanation from UKERNA and the British Government concerning the suppression of the .gb domain have met with evasive, uncertain and vague responses, even as to who took this decision; yet it is clear that this decision has been taken. It might possibly be indirectly related to the ultimately unsuccessful attempt to change the 'GB' vehicle national identification letters to 'UK' post-1997. It seems a strange decision to positively prohibit the use of this extant domain in a purportedly 'free market' economy.
