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1. The external link does not work
- The URL has changed (although the old one works for me via redirect). I've put the updated link in the article.
2. I would like a list of all registerd .edu domains. It can't be that many.
- It is. You can use the whois server. --Zundark 11:47, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Accreditation
"Under the present system, only post-secondary institutions that are accredited by an agency on the U.S. Department of Education's list of nationally recognized accrediting agencies are eligible to apply for a .edu domain. "
How long has this been policy? Hyles-Anderson is completely independent (from what I know) and it has a .edu at http://www.hylesanderson.edu/ . It's Whois Lookup is the following:
Search Results
Domain Name: HYLESANDERSON.EDU
Registrant:
Hyles-Anderson College 8400 Burr Street Crown Point, IN 46307 UNITED STATES
Administrative Contact:
Keith Cowling Department Head Hyles-Anderson College 8400 Burr Street Crown Point, IN 46307 UNITED STATES (219) 365-4031 web@hylesanderson.com
Technical Contact:
Jack Christensen Website manager Hyles-Anderson College 8400 Burr Street Crown Point, IN 46307 UNITED STATES (219) 365-4301 jackc@hylesanderson.com
Name Servers:
NS1.SERVERMATRIX.COM NS2.SERVERMATRIX.COM
Domain record activated: 22-Jul-2003 Domain record last updated: 02-Mar-2005 Domain expires: 31-Jul-2007
--Kalmia 06:28, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Is it really restricted to the USA?
I trust the article, but there have to be more .edu websites about non-USA colleges, not just three. In example, my university's website (University of Barcelona) is http://www.ub.edu --SMP - talk (en) - talk (ca) 18:00, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
- Existing registrations were grandfathered when the "US accreditation required" rule was adopted. *Dan T.* 18:07, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
- Who said there were only three? There are many that qualify even under the present rules. Others have inherited
.edudomains from earlier times, as Dan T. says. --Zundark 19:17, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Other non-post-secondary institutions with .edu domains include...
I've removed "the Art Institute of Chicago, an art museum at www.artic.edu;" from the list. The School of the Art Institute of Chicago (originally "Chicago Academy of Design") is actually older than The Art Institute of Chicago, the museum, and has been accredited since 1936. — Linnwood 20:02, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Non-accredited institutes
Reading through the paragraph listing examples of those with .edu addresses that are not accredited universities, it appears very messy. As the paragraph is essentially a list, I think it would make more sense to format it as such, with bullet points outlining the name and a description of the institute. Kingturkey 08:13, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
- The problem is that people keep adding their favourite non-accredited institutions, and the list has become ridiculously long. Most of the examples serve no purpose, and should be removed. (Do we really need any examples at all?) --Zundark 13:26, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] American World University
In the table on the article it says that amu is a degree mill. While I agree that it probably is, this hardly seems to be a neutral POV, and as such should be changed to read perhaps, "online university" or other such non degregating descriptor. Boydannie (talk) 18:36, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- Since there has been no objection, I will change it to say, "online university" and not "degree mill". Queerbubbles (talk) 18:20, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Examples of "schools" that do not qualify under current rules
The list consists of:
- Stuyvesant High School, a public secondary school at stuy.edu;
- Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology, a public secondary school at tjhsst.edu;
- the Hudson City School District, at hudson.edu;
- the Illinois Mathematics and Science Academy, at imsa.edu;
- the University of the West Indies, an international university, at uwi.edu;
- Phillips Exeter Academy, a private secondary school at exeter.edu;
- Montgomery Blair High School, a public magnet high school in Montgomery County, MD at mbhs.edu;
- Phillips Academy Andover, a private secondary school at andover.edu;
- Westtown School, a private, Quaker secondary school at westtown.edu;
- Porter-Gaud School, an Episcopal school in Charleston, SC at portergaud.edu;
- Catlin Gabel, a private secondary school at catlin.edu.
However, no mention of how these institutions do not qualify under the current rules is given. This list is, therefore, meaningless. Is there a belief that Exeter, Andover, Westtown, or Catlin are not accredited, or is there a belief that their accreditation has been issued by an agency not recognized by the US DOE?
It would be nice to have a list of notable examples of institutions that use an .edu domain name but do not qualify under the current rules. The current list is not sufficient.
Additionally, descriptions such as "international university" is not just confusing, it's meaningless.
[edit] Recognized Accrediting Agencies and Lists Thereof
Educase clearly states that there are at least two lists of accrediting agencies not one. There's a Regional list and a National list, but how institutional and program accreditation differ, well that's not so clear...this is the discussion it's not the article:
Eligibility for a .edu domain name is limited to U.S. postsecondary institutions that are institutionally accredited, i.e., the entire institution and not just particular programs, by agencies on the U.S. Department of Education’s list of Nationally Recognized Accrediting Agencies. These include both "Regional Institutional Accrediting Agencies" and "National Institutional and Specialized Accrediting Bodies" recognized by the U.S. Department of Education. Note that institutional accreditation is required for .edu eligibility; program accreditation is not sufficient. Not all agencies accredit institutions. Some accredit only institutions, some accredit only programs, and others accredit both institutions and programs.
I don't know what the rule was prior to Oct 29, 2001, while it is important to know what it was, the link provided is to the current rule and that rule includes more than one list and also relates to the type of accreditation.
This paragraph of the article:
Starting on October 29, 2001, only post-secondary institutions that are accredited by an agency on the U.S. Department of Education's list of nationally recognized accrediting agencies are eligible to apply for a .edu domain.[2] Most such agencies accredit only US institutions, so very few non-US institutions qualify, and .edu remains almost exclusively a top-level domain of the United States.
is a gross oversimplification and must be re-written. --TMH (talk) 00:32, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
