Talk:.500 S&W Magnum

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Contents 1 WPMILHIST 2 Rifles or Carbines? 3 Recommend for deletion 4 Most powerful handgun title 5 NPOV Statement? 6 Subtle Hilarity 7 Comparison 500 S&W Magnum and 45-70

[edit] WPMILHIST

The WPMILHIST tag has been removed due to this article not being military related.Oldwildbill 06:41, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rifles or Carbines?

Are there any rifles of carbines chambered for this cartridge?

Indeed. There is a .500 S&W single-shot break-open carbine made by New England Firearms. I am thinking about one, but I cannot decide between it or the .45-70. In fact, this article could use some more comparrison between the two, I think. 75.75.110.235 21:19, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Recommend for deletion

The paragraph concerning "power" should be deleted it appears to be for the .50 AE (Action Express) as opposed to the .500 S&W which is the most powerful production handgun in the world according to energy. The peak energy calculated with the reloading data available on the Hodgdon's website (Taking the highest velocity at each given bullet weight) is 3122 ftlbs. (370 grain bullet propelled by 41.0 grains of Lil'Gun powder to a velocity of 1831 fps) Peak energy for the .460 S&W is 2847 ftlbs and for the .454 Cassull is 2205 ftlbs using identical methodologyBfjksig201 23:57, 27 November 2006 (UTC)Bfjksig201 11/27/2006

[edit] Most powerful handgun title

I believe the claim of "most powerful" needs to be limited to commercial production ammunition rather than handloads. .500 S&W achieves 2659 ft-lbs with its 440 gr load at 2650 fps, the .460 S&W achieves 2410 ft-lbs with its 200 gr load at 2330 fps.

If you move into handloads, the claims will continually be out-doing each other. If you go to handloading, the .50 Beowulf cartridge has higher powder grain capacity

[edit] NPOV Statement?

I added a NPOV Disputed tag after the following line. "Known as a "Vest Buster", in some leftist groups that think game wears vests." No cite for the nickname, nor for the deer wearing Dragon Skin.

i added the fact that the game wears vests, as it was as much true as the vestbuster comment.

Perhaps the VPC link should be deleted? The VPC has a history of being... not so truthful and deceptive, to say the least.

[edit] Subtle Hilarity

I absolutely love whoever added "Distal radius fracture" to the list of links. That's subtle comedy at its best. It also might be a useful link for anyone firing this cartridge without preparation! Wild T 12:38, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Comparison 500 S&W Magnum and 45-70

This is a bit irritating: "provides power similar to long established wildcat cartridges such as [...] pistol loadings of the .45-70 Government". Yet the S&W article claims 3.5 kJ of energy, while the 45-70 article states for pistols like the Contender (which probably works more efficient than revolver and uses a longer barrel) "Even the shortest barrel, 14 inches, is easily capable of producing well over 2,000 ft·lbf (2,700 J) of energy" Tierlieb (talk) 11:59, 18 March 2008 (UTC)