User talk:207.200.122.11

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[edit] Welcome

Hello, 207.200.122.11, and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the New contributors' help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type {{helpme}} and your question on your user talk page, and someone will show up shortly to answer. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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P.S. Please don't just delete information from articles because it lacks a source. Tag the statement with {{fact}} and leave a civil comment on the talk page stating why you did so. Also, adding qualifiers like "small" would require a source to sustantiate it, as well.

Best Regards,

Wysdom 05:00, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding unsourced statements

You left me a message about adding the word "small" to a statement. I have to cite the reference for the word "small" yet the poster doesn't have to cite anything to back up the original statement? It's ludicrous. It never happened. I'm being matter-of-fact with my comments. I'm sorry -- honestly -- if it didn't sound civil. I sppreciate your comments. I'm just having a difficult time figuring out how statements that are unverifiable are able to remain ona site. It's obvious the poster has an agenda. Talk 02:27, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Looks like I made a lousy job of making my point there, before ;) My comments appended to the welcome message were meant to illuminate how things should be done here. There's a process. One important part of that process is to assume good faith. Unless a statement is libelous, offensive, nonsense, or otherwise really out in left field, you should assume good faith on the part of the contributor and tag the statement, as I recommended above. If the contributor hasn't responded and or sourced the statement in a reasonable period of time, then it's reasonable to remove it.

My point with the word "small" is--if it never happened, how could there have been ANY grass roots movement, even a small one? That may have been your own good faith gesture--to assume something like that may have happened, but on so small a scale that no one ever heard of it or it didn't make the news... but it was still just as unsubstantiated, unsourced, and functionally just as "wrong" as the original statement. I hope that makes more sense now.

No Wikipedian intends for unverified or false information to remain on the site--but in order to minimize edit wars, bad feelings, and maximize an atmosphere in which people can feel comfortable contributing, we also try not to edit "off the cuff". So please, take the time to become familiar with the policies that are in place--it takes some patience and there's rarely immediate gratification, but it makes Wikipedia a community instead of just a collection of facts.

Best regards,

Wysdom 05:51, 17 April 2007 (UTC)