Talk:2004–05 NHL lockout

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[edit] American vs. British spelling conventions

Why labor and not labour? is this not an issue that Canadians are more concerned about? Earl Andrew 07:45, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I agree completely. Most Americans don't even know that there is a lockout. --Zippanova 00:41, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

There are more US teams than Canadian teams. The Google test, however, favors the superfluous "u": "NHL labor dispute" gets only 872 hits, to 1,930 for "NHL labour dispute". By the Google test, however, the article should really be moved to "NHL lockout" (116,000 hits), with of course the year(s) added in whatever format seems best (see discussion below). JamesMLane 18:45, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
More American teams, but more Canadian players :D -- Earl Andrew - talk 09:54, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
More important, there's more Canadian media outlets reporting on the story? How often does the lockout even mentioned on ESPN Sportscenter? --Madchester June 30, 2005 19:49 (UTC)

THat's becuase ESPN is gay. Super gay. If it doesn't involve football, baseball, or baskgayball, then it doesn't exist.

They don't mention it because they don't have any broadcasting rights for hockey anymore, unlike the other major sports which often have ESPN games. Jpp42 07:50, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

If it matters that much change the damn spelling.

[edit] Article name change

Given that the labor dispute is still going on, shouldn't this article be called "National Hockey League labor dispute (2004-2005)"? --Idont Havaname 02:06, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I don't think it's absolutely necessary considering the labor dispute started in 2004. Maybe once it ends we can add the end year to it. – flamuraiTM 04:11, Feb 4, 2005 (UTC)
Also it may still be on in 2006 (and possibly beyond) so that may require changes as well...

[edit] Fan perspectives

I've put in a couple of ext links to "fan protest" sites. Should there be a section, or a separate article, on fan reactions to the NHL lockout, or is this just blowing the story out of proportion? --Idont Havaname 03:42, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The New Deal

I came to this page looking for information on the agreement...unfortunately, there is no actual information on what the agreement was, only that one had been reached. Specifically I'd like to know the amount of the salary cap, etc. I will try to add this if I figure it out, but someone might want to add a section detailing the new agreement. --Brett

I also came to this page wanting to know, in broad terms, what the agreement was that ended the lockout. This page, as of 12/4/06, tells me virtually nothing about the agreement - Scott

[edit] Sources?

This article really needs some sources, especially the dubious claim that the NHL lockout had any effect on the growth of Texas Hold-em poker. Personally, I would just as soon remove that statement altogether, as frankly, I doubt the NHL had any impact in this regard. Resolute 19:57, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. The texas hold-em claim might have a place in the correlation does not imply causation article though... Gantlord
This sent up some flags to me, too. I did a quick google of NHL lockout and Texas Hold'em Poker and came up with a blurb regarding this idea by Marvin Ryder:

Did the NHL lockout cause televised poker's popularity? Sports – McMaster University marketing guru Marvin Ryder says cable networks were left scrambling for winter sporting events and filled broadcast time with televised poker. Televised poker drew up to three times the audience of the NHL and established tournament, casino, online and home poker as a North American "phenomenon." [1]


So I refined the search to Marvin Ryder and NHL and got this piece from the Hamilton Spectator [2]. So I'm going to take down the citation needed flag and add that second reference. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nhelm83 (talk • contribs) 19:07, 11 May 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Effects on the U.S. Hockey Market

This section appears to be problematic, due to its lack of references, and does not seem to written in a NPOV. It's more like a fan's rant of what's wrong with the NHL. It should be deleted. Richiekim (talk) 19:04, 13 April 2008 (UTC)