Talk:1968 Democratic National Convention

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[edit] External link

I would like to add an external link to a lesson plan created by the Columbus Museum of Art that deals specifically with the 1968 Democratic National Convention. It surrounds a painting by Bernard Perlin called Mayor Daley and the lesson plan is geared towards teachers and students to learn more about the painting as well as the Convention itself. I would appreciate anyone's comments so that I could add this link. ArtandSocialIssues (talk) 15:17, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Neutrality

This entire article is ridiculously one sided. It reads like something Hoffman himself would have written. An article detailing the protestors demands, followed up by a factual timeline of the events, and concluding with an aftermath section would be sufficient. Now its nothing but Yippie Propaganda. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.181.47.130 (talk) 17:58, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

I think the current version of the Convention itself is neutral. 02:40, 11 February 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gentleroger (talk • contribs)

[edit] Ribicoff

The Ribicoff page claims that lip-readers and eyewitnesses said Daley said, quote, "Fuck you, you jew motherfucker!". here it says something about "kike". any clarification?

[edit] Stub?

I don't think this is so much a stub any more. Anyone else? The comparison between when it was tagged and now --The Human Spellchecker 23:38, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Dates?

This article needs specific dates for the beginning and end of both the convention and protests and riots in the streets of Chicago. Right now, it only has a tangential reference to August 27th as the birthday of LBJ. Would anyone be willing to find the required dates? --Sophitus 02:37, May 16, 2005 (UTC)

The convention began on August 26 and ended on the 29. LBJ turned 60 on August 27, which was during the convention. The riots happened on that day as well. -- SNIyer12 20:47, August 12, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Spinoff a riot article

I think the riots and the convention itself should be separate articles. I think their is enough info to cover each as separate articles. Some areas that should also be covered regarding the riot include:

  • The use of violence by police against protester. Their are all sorts of eyewitness accounts by the press and regular people that can be quoted.
  • The response by Mayor Daily, Chicago Police, Local Authorities, etc. to the charges of police brutality and violence incitement by police.
  • Describe what the those charged as part of the Chicago eight (later seven) where doing during the riots and what about it was claimed to justify the charges against them. Also the Chicago Seven trial should have a full paragraph included on it as part of a summery rather then just the two lines currently in the article.
  • The riots have been said to have swayed some undecided voters towards Nixon by giving the Democratic party a black eye. This should be discussed as their are notable historians and political commentators who have discussed this aspect of the '68 election.

If I find the time maybe I'll try to dig up some additional info on the riots and start a separate article on them. --Cab88 13:20, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] LBJ

The following line seems POV, anyone mind if I remove it?

Of course, LBJ couldn't travel anywhere without facing any protests.

[edit] Sources

Please source. This article as it stands is an original research piece. --Cerejota 03:49, 7 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Reasons

Could there be a section on possible reasons why the protests occurred? Or am I to assume that all presidential conventions have protests of that size from their own party members?

You will see the (D-MN) or whatever designation in every US paper or magazine referring to senators, governors, etc., indicating party and state. The publications don't clarify for international distribution, as far as I know. All states have a standard 2-letter postal abbreviation used for mail and other official purposes. If you don't know the state abbreviations I'm afraid you will have to look them up, because the party-state postal abbreviation designation is standard across the board when referring to politicians. The state abbreviation designations are readily available online or in many publications if you aren't in the US. On the local level it will say (D-4th) or something to indicate democrat-4th district or ward or whatever the case may be.98.206.102.76 (talk) 04:28, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Explanation may be needed

the intro contains the following text: Senator Robert F. Kennedy (D-NY)

I'm assuming it means democratic senator for New York, but this should be cleared up for anyone (like me) who is not from the USA. Could someone who actually is 100% sure what this means rephrase the sentence to be internationally accessible? Steevm 15:20, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I just noticed that "D-MN" also appears in the text; It may be democrat - Maine, but again I don't know. Please also fix this so non USA residents know what is being referred to! Steevm 15:22, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Viet Cong Flag on Equestrian statue

in Tom Brokaw's 1968 he did a segment on the convention and riots. Before night Hippies were flying a VC flag on a statue in the park. The police removed the Hippies and flage. Just thought maybe some reference to that may have incited the police even more. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Feickus (talk • contribs) 19:52, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Neutrality

This page contains severe problems of POV and nuetrality, whole paragraphs of what must be seen as clearly partisan opinion about the events, media reaction, police response, etc, are without references of footnotes of any kind. I refuse to believe an event of this significance lacks the ability to reference these views, if true, so until this is done the page must be tagged as such. also, paragraphs are your friends... use some?JJJ999 (talk) 05:12, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

I was just reaching the same conclusion and, judging by past comments, others agree. Nothing has been done about it though. The area that really is too long and most problemic seems to be the section on the protests. I can't fix it, but am going to move it to its own article with the hopes that some else will take the time to cut it down to a more encyclopedic article. PerlKnitter (talk) 19:31, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Article Issues

The Nomination section has no references, and they could be used elsewhere as well. Rather than tag it with refimprove, I've combined them into article issues. Darthveda (talk) 00:27, 11 March 2008 (UTC)