Talk:Šarplaninac

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[edit] Pictures

If, when the article is expanded, more pictures are needed, they are available at bg:Картинка:Sharplaninec 2.jpg and bg:Картинка:Sharplaninec 3.jpg. Same licence info as Image:Sharplaninec 1.jpg. Nikola 14:32, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)

 It is requested that a photograph or photographs be included in this article to improve its quality, if possible. Preferred photos show the complete animal, head to tail. Additional photos should add information, such as a face-only shot or distinct coat color or texture variants. Please do not include restricted copyright or "fair use" images.
Special request: A photo that isn't blurry, has better lighting, and shows the dog from the side. - Pharaoh Hound 17:34, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I don't have any side views of the Sarplaninac, but I do have a frontal one if you guys don't mind. --Plxstic Orgasms 00:55, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox

I resized my browser back and forth and reduced font size and whatever, and I can't seem to find a combination where the box isn't >50% of the width. That's just wrong... --Joy [shallot] 21:42, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)

That's odd. Is it only this page or is it all the pages for all dogs in List of dog breeds? Because all the ones with illustrations are the same width. Elf | Talk 22:28, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
They're all generally rather wide, but this one is particularly wide because of the bottom notes. --Joy [shallot] 22:35, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
OK, instead of BRs, I made the table a fixed width. Does that help? (You must be using a large font size--I'm using the default configuration so that I can see what other people see when they first look at Wiki, and the SMALL makes the font so small that I can't really read it--e.g., in your signature, at first glance I see charcters of the greek alphabet, which I thought was intneresting, but now that I know it's english, on the display it looks like maybe shallx or maybe smlb. But I see you've got double-smalls.) Elf | Talk 22:53, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Geography

(Now that I have a map in front of me, Sar mountain actually doesn't extend outside of the province; but I'd prefer current wording as other two mentioned entities are countries). Nikola 09:56, 31 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Addition about Yugoslavian/Kosovo name changes

(Moved following off the article page:)

Note: The Dog belongs to Illyrium population today known as Albanians but since Kosovo was under the Yugoslavian goverment they used this and they registered as their dog and changed the name Sarplaninac or Yugoslavian shepherd dog. The true is different the dog belonged to Albanian and will continue so. In Albanian language is called wether Qen i Sharit or Qen Ilir. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.114.68.74 (talk • contribs) 19:35, 21 February 2006 (UTC) - diff.

I'm having a little trouble understanding all of this. My attempt at rewriting would look something like this: "The people living in the area where the breed originated are now known as Illyrian or Albanian. Because this area, Kosovo, was part of Yugoslavia when the breed name was formally recognized, they called it the Sarplaninac or Yugoslavian shepherd dog. (??However, there's another breed of dog that is still found in Albania that is called by a different name (in English??); in Albanian that other dog is called Qen i Sharit or Qen Ilir.)?? But you can see that I'm really struggling with whether this is correct. And it's not at all clear to me where the change to "Kosovo Shepherd Dog" comes in. Elf | Talk 20:27, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] To User 82.114.68.74

I'd like to mention that the controversy surrounding the Illyrian = Albanian controversy isn't 100% reinstated. Kosovo, for as far as I understand, has been considered a distinct "province" or republic more or less of Serbia.

Furthermore, I do not understand your point in saying that the name was changed to "Šarplaninac" or "Yugoslavian shepherd dog". As far as I know, Šar planina is mainly located in the regions of Macedonia and Kosovo, followed by Mount Korab which is located as a boundary and extension into Albania. So, because of that, there is a truth in saying that the dog does lie in the major Šar region of Macedonia, followed by Kosovo. Therefore, the indigenous people of Macedonia must have had it in their region as well. Do you comprehend?

--Plxstic Orgasms 00:51, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Duplicate article

There appears to be a duplicate article about this dog: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharplaninac Edrigu 19:23, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

In the last days this article has been moved (and even copy-&-pasted) to "Sarplaninac(Ilyrian Shepherd)", "Sharr Mountain Dog" and "Sharplaninac" -all without any discussion whatsoever- to the point of creating the duplicate mentioned by Edrigu.
I requested that the article be moved back to "Šarplaninac", and Anthony Appleyard has been kind enough to do it, for which I thank him.
Now, if anybody thinks that the current title is inappropriate, or that another one would be better, please discuss the issue in this talk page first, try to establish a consensus for a new name among the article's aditors, or at the very least follow the proper move request procedures. Please recognize that the issue is potentially controversial.
Keep in mind that the article's title should follow our general naming conventions and the specific ones for fauna. - Best regards, Ev 07:24, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Dobermannp, please don't create duplicate articles as you did with "Ilyrian Shepherd‎". If you haven't done so yet, read carefully what a content fork is. - Best regards, Ev 17:08, 3 October 2007 (UTC)