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[edit] New districts.. Time passes fast

Yep...Igdir. One of the new districts made a province while I was away :-) Thanks for the correction! mu5ti 01:14, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Igdir in 1918-1920

I removed the 1919-1920 sentence. "Genocide" supposedly was between 1915-1917, but the sentence says "Igdir was mostly Armenian untill 1919-1920, untill the genocide" (I guess the Turks from 1915 travelled the future to 1919 and killed everyone). Obvious discrepancy.

Igdir in 1919 at the time under the control Armenian forces [1]. Armenians did constitute the largest ethnic group but the majority of the population was not Armenian, it was Yezidi, Tatar and Turk combination [2] All types of people (including non-Armenians) died from famine, not from anything else. If requested, I can upload the entire newspaper. Let me know if you need more sources. --Oguz1 16:01, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

It is a clear cut fact that Igdir was a majority Armenian region around 1918-1920 (and no, Yezidis are Kurds not Turks and are also not Muslim so they cannot be collectively counted with Tatars and other Turkic groups). The Armenians in this region not only died of starvation, but they were also deliberately killed. This account from National Geographic proves it: [3]
I'm not sure if these events can still be described as part of the Armenian Genocide as most historians believe that the Genocide took place between 1915 and 1917 - the killing of the Igdir Armenians occured in 1918-1920. Therefore, I have changed this to read:
A majority Armenian population remained in the area throughout this history of struggle between great powers. However, in 1919-1920 most either died or fled due to starvation and ethnic cleansing.
I also split off the paragraph on Kurds and Azerbaijanis living in the region into a seperate "Demographics" section.
I have also removed the note about the creation of a Statue and Museum commemorating the "genocide of Turks by Armenians" because it can easily lead to a dispute between Turkish and Armenian users. In a sense, this monument only commemorates the denial of what really happened in Igdir in 1918-1920. -- Aivazovsky 14:53, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Also the Turkish-Armenian border at Igdir is not marked by the Akhurian River but the Aras River. -- Aivazovsky 15:24, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
The Muslim information is irrelevant and the Kurds should be mentioned as being the majority in the demographics section. -- Aivazovsky 23:05, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Kurds were mentioned as the majority. Please see my version. I think the Muslim information is relevant, but we can remove the one next to Armenian oblast, though I would rather keep it. Erivan khanate one should stay. denizTC 23:13, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Okay, I readded it. -- Aivazovsky 23:39, 5 April 2007 (UTC)