Talk:France in the American Revolutionary War

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[edit] Translation

This article is a translation of the intro from fr:La France dans la guerre d'indépendance américaine. I did a first run, cleanup as needed. - AKeen 22:33, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks ^0^y Yug 12:17, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Good heavens, talk about crappy neutrality.

... What means Crappy ? I'm not a native english speaker. Yug 10:06, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

crappy = merdique, nul  :-)

I did all I can for the translation. However, I am warning you guys now that I am relatively new with French :\ -- 24630 4:15 pm, 3 July 2006

[edit] Inappropriate Image

The picture shows the famous "Old Ironsides" Navel duel. This occured in the War of 1812, which makes it a highly inappropriate image for an article about French aid to the US in the US Revolution. ELV

[edit] Proposal for deletion , and apology

Britain as official US trade partner? So far as I am aware, the United States does not and has never had "official trade partners." and I am an American. This article is inadequate, and I propose it be deleted. France's participation in the American Revolutionary War was vastly signifigant, but this article doesn't cut it, sorry. --V. Joe 23:10, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

I deleted section on official trade evidence. Please notify me on my talk page if you restore it. --V. Joe 23:13, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

apology 

I was hasty in my call for deletions and I remove that request. What you've got so far is a fundamental improvement. Keep up the good work.--V. Joe 07:36, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Traduttore, tradittore ... (or why this article needs a total copyedit)

My first reaction to this article was that it was horribly vandalised. Then I saw it was translated from the french wikipedia article. Although it has been improved since then, it still needs some editing. I'll be coming here from time to time, but others are welcome to dig in too (:... --Victor falk 00:13, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] La Fayette gains...notoriety?

Under French involvement, paragraph 2.

"The war was benefiting from popular support, La Fayette was gaining notoriety, and the avenging spirit was ready to express itself."

Totally doesn't make sense. Htmlqawsedrftg (talk) 18:05, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Huge French debt

France had a debt of 3,000 billion?

French troops had to be transported over great distances, which cost about 1 billion livres tournois, and further added to France's debt of a little less than 3,315 billion.

Htmlqawsedrftg (talk) 18:43, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

O.O !!!! Not 3000 , but three billions and three hundred fifteen millions. That's a French to English translation mistake (fr: 3,315 billion = 3 billions 315 millions ) ! thanks for your notification.

Yug, former autor of the French article. 07:05, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Restore old Introduction

Hide is the introduction as write by user:74.170.56.51, he destroyed the article 3 times, and then put a bad introduction which was not reverted.

So, I corrected (see the change)

Based on the last good introduction available : 30 january 2008, by Valentinejoesmith (Valentinejoesmith)

Yug 07:26, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Haley

Who is Haley and what purpose does that giant biased paragraph serve? The second one to clarify. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.98.97.250 (talk) 15:54, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Haley don't display any famous historian of French or american history. Also, just "Haley" (without name) virtually means "every Haley on the earth" -> I deleted "Haley argue", and replace it by "Some argue". 220.135.4.212 (talk) 18:18, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] American Reaction to French Involement

The reaction in the colonies to the French entry into the war was not an overwhelmingly positive one, as it left a number of American officers unhappy. Notable amongst them was Benedict Arnold who up to this point had been one of the most fervent supporters of American independence, and the outstanding hero of the cause for his services in Canada and at Saratoga, was apalled by the alliance with France. The reason for this mainly stemmed from his early experiences fighting against the French in the Seven Years War where he saw the French and their Native American Allies commit a number of atrocities.

Combined with this was also a disgust for the French absolute monarchy, which was far less democratic than the constitutional monarch of the United Kingdom. To some this new alliance also seemed to combine with a growing elitism within the Continental Army, as demonstrated by the appointment of untried European aritstocrats such as Lafrayette over more expereinced American officers.

Overall many considered the new alliance a betrayal of the radical foundations on which the new Republic had been established. In Arnold's case this played, along with many other factors, a large part in his descision to defect to the British. Lord Cornwallis (talk) 00:45, 29 May 2008 (UTC)